Re: What's the connection between objects and threads?

James Kanze <>
Mon, 19 May 2008 02:50:24 -0700 (PDT)
On May 18, 11:00 pm, Szabolcs Ferenczi <>

On May 18, 9:59 pm, James Kanze <> wrote:

On 18 mai, 18:22, Szabolcs Ferenczi <>

On May 18, 3:56 pm, James Kanze <> wrote:

The next version of the standard will definitely support threads
at the language level; that much has been pretty well proven.

You should know it,

Since I'm one of the experts in the French national body, yes.
I'm very much aware about what is going into the standard.

since you were trolling in the other discussion
thread in "Threading in new C++ standard" too,

The only troll in that thread was you. You refuse to read and
understand the published documentation, and you've obviously no
real experience with large working multithreaded applications,
but you continue with argumentive posts questionning the
competence of the real experts.

that threads are not
going to be included at the language level in C++0x. You were
corrected there by people taking part in C++0x standardisation.

And that is simply a lie.

Threading will be included at the library level only. Check
out the C+ +0x document proposal and report here if you can
find in it any language elements for defining any computation
process at the language level.

Threading is handled in =EF=BF=BD1.9 of the latest draft (amongst other
places). This was pointed out to you in the other thread as
well, but you refuse to read anything which doesn't conform to
your prejudices.

... That
doesn't mean that objects and threads will necessarily be

No, that does not, especially since threads will not appear at
the language level in C++0x. Even if computational processes
were included at the language level, it does not necessarily
mean that computational processes and objects must be related
and I have pointed that out earlier in this discussion!
(Please read the posts, do not just troll into them.)

The only thing you've done to date is make a lot of vacuous
claims, unsupported by any real facts. The experts in the
matter don't share your prejudices. Nor do those of us actually
involved in writing working applications.

James Kanze (GABI Software)
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