From:

Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid>

Newsgroups:

comp.lang.c++

Date:

Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:50:16 -0400

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Victor Bazarov wrote:

I was hoping to use a single loop.

The usual way to find the minimum is to initialize the value from the

first element, and then start comparing from the second element. An

empty set is a special case for which the calculation of the "minimum"

should just throw an exception. A set of one element is also a special

case: there is no need to compare anything. Two elements could be

made into a special case by use of std::min.

first element, and then start comparing from the second element. An

empty set is a special case for which the calculation of the "minimum"

should just throw an exception. A set of one element is also a special

case: there is no need to compare anything. Two elements could be

made into a special case by use of std::min.

I was hoping to use a single loop.

Are you concerned with less typing, and not with implementing it

correctly *logically*? Do you consider "a single loop" better or more

efficient in some way?

> Relying on a separate initialization

block feels a bit like a crude-ish hack.

"Crude-ish"? Really? <shrug> Using an infinity value in that manner is

crudish, IMNSHO. It suggests that (a) infinity is not a valid value for

any set element to be associated with (which might be true in your

model, but doesn't necessarily sound right in all cases), and (b) that

the maximum value from the elements of an empty set is infinity, which

is a number (if you divide by it, you get 0). I'd probably use NaN for

that, although by definition of "seeking a maximum associated floating

point number" should *not* be allowed for an empty set, such search

shouldn't return a value.

As for infinity (unrelated to searching through a set of numbers), there

is 'std::numeric_limits<double>::infinity()', which you could call if

'std::numeric_limits<double>::has_infinity' is 'true'.

is 'std::numeric_limits<double>::infinity()', which you could call if

'std::numeric_limits<double>::has_infinity' is 'true'.

Yes, I was using that, and according to the standard

std::numeric_limits<T>::has_infinity is true for T = float and double, so no

test is necessary. The only problem I have with it is that it doesn't feel

quite right to handle infinity values like this. At least I never saw this

being done anywhere else.

<another shrug> I have. But it's still not right. You can use any

other designated value that can never be found in your set. And if you

don't have any identifiable value to use, don't. Use *logic*.

Essentially you're trying to have a mapping of yourtype values to

double/float values without

std::map<double, yourtype const*> yourmap;

.. And you're trying to figure out a hack to get

(*yourmap.rbegin()).first without checking whether the 'yourmap' is

empty or not. <third shrug>

V

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