Re: Java IO compared to NIO

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Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.spamfilter@virtualinfinity.net>
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Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:00:10 -0700
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On 7/28/2010 2:50 AM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:

John B. Matthews wrote:

This presentation compares Java synchronous (java.io.*) to
asynchronous (java.nio.*) I/O in a high volume SMTP application,
finding a measurable benefit for the former with modern threading
libraries and multi-core machines.

<http://www.mailinator.com/tymaPaulMultithreaded.pdf>

Some discussion may be found here:

<http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/07/27/1925209>

The few times the choice has come up, we implemented synchronous I/O,
profiled it, found it met the requirements and declared victory.
Lacking much experience in this area, I'd welcome critical comments.


Yeah, I was just reading about this Paul Tyma discovery myself. I'm not
prepared to comment on it other than to say that the presented arguments
are plausible. I'll also note that the main argument has been made
before - it's not a stunning new revelation.

On a related note, if "old" I/O meets your requirements then what more
do you need? :-) I've been generally content with "old" I/O in most
situations.

And as an aside, one thing I noticed with NIO when it came out,
specifically concerning use of the Selector, was that the new API
promoted a fair bit of black-box copy-paste programming. Admittedly I
have only a small set of observations, but quite frankly the only time I
ran across a group of people that thoroughly understood their NIO code
was when their original code had been C code and they were using the
select() call there. It might perhaps be more accurate to say that NIO
did not *promote* this copy-paste programming; it simply perpetuated it
- it wasn't easier for the average programmer to understand than "old" I/O.

It was never meant to be easier, it was meant to reduce the number of
threads required for handling multiple "streams" of data. It is actually
far more complicated to get correct, often requiring a state machine.
For a single stream, I suspect there is no speed benefit.

As far as efficiency goes, my guess is that there is a sweet-spot for
the number of streams-per-thread which outperforms regular IO. This
sweet-spot would depend on many factors, including overall system-load,
threading implementation, low-level select implementation, and stream
throughput.

Just a thought.
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