Re: Inserting In a List

From:
Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
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Wanja Gayk wrote:

Lew says...

Wanja Gayk wrote:

I do find the term "final variable" a bit clumsy though, because in my=

 

view these are constants. Unfortunately in the Java world, we're callin=

g

these "constants" only, if they're marked "static". Technically that's=

 

 

That is not correct Java terminology. There is nothing in the Java defin=

ition

of "constant expression" or "constant variable" that requires a static c=

ontext.

 

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-15.html#jls-15.28
 
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-4.html#jls-4.12.4
"A variable of primitive type or type String, that is final and initiali=

zed with a

compile-time constant expression (=A715.28), is called a constant variabl=

e.">

 
Well, Lew, I guess you pretty much understand what I mean, it's the same =

thing.

I understood you to mean that to be called a "constant" in Java that the th=
ing would
have to be static. That is not the same thing at all.

The term "constant variable" is a moronic oxymoron, it can be


Regardless of your emotional reaction to the term, that is the term.

either variable or constant. It's like saying "I have a fixed movable


The word "variable" in computer science does not mean "can vary". It means=
 
"a named location that can hold a value."

device" - no, you haven't, you have a fixed device, by fixing it you
have removed the "movable" nature entirely.


It's nothing like that at all.

You yourself make this clear in another post:

Wanja Gayk wrote:

"lipska the kat" says...

This is what I don't get, if it's a named bin that can be refilled why=

 

do you _decorate_ it with final.


It's because it is not meant to be refilled, ever, that's what you call=

 

a constant.


You are arguing both sides of the fence.

It does not say "final, static and ...".

 
I might be used to the terminology used in the Eclipse IDE when you use=

 

the refactoring "extract constant" you'll get a static final field.


"Extract constant" in Eclipse as a refactoring action does indeed extract t=
o a
static constant variable.

That does not mean that static variables are the only ones that can be cons=
tant.
It just means that the wizard implements the common use case.

--
Lew

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