Re: Interface with implied Constructor

From:
Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:13:45 +0200
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<b51qitFs56dU1@mid.individual.net>
On 20.07.2013 23:18, Martin Gregorie wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:12:47 -0400, Eric Sosman wrote:

On 7/20/2013 3:12 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:46:16 +0200, Robert Klemme wrote:

On 19.07.2013 23:21, Martin Gregorie wrote:

[...]
I take the opposite approach to Robert over that for one reason: that
the only way to report init errors in a constructor is to throw an
Exception,
which means the instance declaration often needs to go inside a
try/catch block which can screw up scoping.


In what ways does this screw up scoping?


Just that I often find that I need access to the instance outside the
try/
catch block containing the constructor call and I don't much like
initialising the pointer as null.


      Then ... don't initialize it.

    Thing thing;
    try {
        thing = new Thing();
    } catch (DooWopDooWopDooWopException ex) {
        logger.log(Level.SEVERE, "Eek!", ex);
        throw ex;
    }
    System.out.println(thing.getSwing());
    ...

This form has the advantage that the compiler will complain if the
all-important `throw ex;' is forgotten, whereas initializing to null
would just get you an NPE.

      Very occasionally there's a situation where you really do need
to use the null-ness of `thing' as an indication that construction
failed. In that case, I'd still suggest not initializing:

    Thing thing;
    try {
        thing = new Thing();
    } catch (DooWopDooWopDooWopException ex) {
        logger.log(Level.SEVERE, "Eek!", ex);
        thing = null;
    }
    if (thing != null) {
        System.out.println(thing.getSwing());
    else {
        System.out.println("It don't mean a thing");
    }

IMHO, situations like this are suggestive of a poorly-designed Thing
class (which you may be forced to endure), or of a method that's trying
to do too many things and might better be split up.

This is a result of my dislike of using Exceptions to signal anything
except a fatal error and may well be a hangover from writing a lot of C
in the past. A method that returns reference to a library class whose
constructor can throw an exception, e.g. Integer, but does not itself
return an exception requires this sort of structure:


No, this is not _required_. It can be done differently. Just one way:

   public int getHeight(String height) {
     try {
       final Integer h = new Integer(height);

       if (h < 0) {
         error = "Below MSL";
         return -1;
       }

       error = null;
       return alt = h;
     }
     catch (NumberFormatException e) {
       error = e.getMessage();
       return -1;
     }
   }

I think there are various aspects about this example class that are
worth discussing other than the scoping topic. But I don't want to go
there as we are currently discussing scope.

I believe the scoping is not screwed up by the constructor throwing an
exception but rather by your choice of how you access "h" in that example.

public class Altitude {
    int alt = 0;
    String error = null;

    /**
     * Returning a negative number indicates an invalid height.
     */
    public int getHeight(String height)
    {
      Integer h = null;


      Since this initialization is useless (the variable will
always be overwritten, exception or no), why even have it?

      try {
        h = new Integer(height);
        if (h < 0)
          error = "Below MSL";
      }
      catch (NumberFormatException e)
      {
        error = e.getMessage(); h = new Integer(-1);
      }

      return alt = h.intValue();
    }

    public boolean isValid()
    { return error === null; }

    public String getError()
    { return error; }
}

This isn't a really good example because Integer provides other ways of
doing the job, but it does illustrate the sort of scoping problem I'm
talking about: that of allowing access to the Integer instance in both
parts of the try/catch block as well as from surrounding parts of the
method body.


      I don't see how the NumberFormatException has much to do
with it: Your getHeight() method needs the `h' at the point of its
return, so its scope must include the return statement. The only
"scoping issue" I can see is that the try block and the catch block have
their own subsidiary scopes in which `h' also needs to be (and is)
visible -- but then, why aren't you worried about the scope of `height'?
  (Or even of `error' and `alt'?)


You're right, of course. But, please bear in mind that I concocted this
example at Robert's request to illustrate the sort of scoping situation
where I prefer to use a constructor that never throws an Exception plus
an init() method that can throw one rather than a constructor that does
it all but needs to throw an Exception if a recoverable error occurs in
the constructor.


If you concede that Eric is right here then you are basically saying you
provided the wrong example. The problem with these examples is that
they do not convey the point you are trying to make. So what do you
*really* want to say?

Cheers

    robert

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