Re: Object pooling

From:
Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:58:17 +0200
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On 09/21/2010 04:20 AM, Arne Vajh=F8j wrote:

On 20-09-2010 05:09, Robert Klemme wrote:

On 19 Sep., 23:24, Arne Vajh=F8j<a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

On 19-09-2010 14:13, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Robert Klemme wrote:

On 19.09.2010 15:49, Tom Anderson wrote:

I have some heavyweight objects that i would like to try pooling.

To be specific, they're JAX-WS (actually JBossWS) Service (and/or
port) objects. My observations so far are that they take hundreds =

of

milliseconds to make (if you count instantiation of the service,
instantiation of the port, and extra time taken the first time a
method on the port is called, it seems to be 200-800 ms, depending=

),

and that the spec doesn't guarantee that they're threadsafe (and a=

s

it happens, i believe that in the JBossWS implementation, neither =

the

service nor the port is threadsafe).


Since you are using web services which is a pretty much standard wa=

y

of accessing business logic I would expect some prepackaged solutio=

ns

to be available.


So would i. I haven't come across any, though.


Axis allows you to define the scope of the service to request,
session or application.

The last will reuse. But it does require the service methods
to be individually thread safe. If that does not work for
you, then you need to look for another solution.


That means you either create a bottleneck or have to do the pooling
internally.


No.

If the methods are thread safe you can make parallel calls
on the same object.


They might still block internally. Either you have a pool internally
which needs some level of synchronization for handing out objects and
taking them back. Or you reuse the same instance which likely has some
state that is not thread sharable (a socket comes to mind). The whole
point of this thread was to pool what amounts to WS service objects
which, according to OP, are not guaranteed to be thread safe. Reusing a =

single instance does not scale in this case.

If not, you could wrap your client code in a JCA connector which th=

en

will be pooled almost automatically by your application container


Man, it's all JCA today!


JCA does not seem to be a good fit for your requirement. You don't
need anything JCA specific. And you can do pools without it.


Why not? Since you are talking to a remote system and _if_ there is
no built in solution in the app server used, then JCA seems like the
exact fit. Basically, talking to remote systems and exchanging
information is exactly what JCA was created for. And you can even
make it transactional. What makes you say it's not a good fit?


JCA is for connecting to systems.

But you don't need it for the standard supported protocols: EJB,
Web Service, JMS etc..

And you don't need any of the special privileges of JCA: using
JNI, starting threads, listening to sockets etc..

And the CCI interface would make the API more cumbersome
not less cumbersome.


All good reasons. Thanks for taking the time!

Kind regards

    robert

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