Re: JSP Web-Development [newbie]

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Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:25:00 -0400
On 28-07-2010 14:37, Chris Riesbeck wrote:

On 7/28/2010 12:31 PM, pmz wrote:

Dear Group,

1. At the beginning I'd like to apologize you for any mistakes or
misunderstood's, which might occur in message below, but I'm a quite
beginner in JSP so maybe some of my problems aren't really problems ;)
My Java knowledge is intermediate, but the structures of JSP or JSF or
any other frameworks is pretty bad, but I do not have any idea how to

Personally, I prefer JSTL over straight JSP, to reduce jumping back and
forth between HTML and Java syntax. So iteration over a collection is

<c:forEach var="item" items="${myObj.thingies}">
<li><c:out value="${item}" /></li>

instead of

<% for (Object item : myObj.getThingies()) { %>
<li><%= item %></li>
<% } <%>

Very good advice.

With newer versions:

<li><c:out value="${item}" /></li>

can even be written as:


2. I'm trying to build bit complex website based on JSP (which I've
done a lot in PHP, so the main idea of website engineering is quite
common for me), but I a bit confused about the architecture/structure
of a JSP webpage building. The problem is, I'm not able to imagine in
my mind, how the architecture (directory structure) should be found,
how do I divide the template files, the engine core, etc.

You can do almost anything, but don't put pages and other user-viewable
items under WEB-INF. WEB-INF is for libraries, class files, and XML
configuration files. So you could have

jsp files
css files

and other flatter or more nested structures as you choose.

JSP pages in WEB-INF are not directly accessible, but they can
be used from servlet / action classes.

Some even consider that good practice.

I don't agree, but ...


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