Re: Coding tip for newbies

From:
Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.help
Date:
Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:08:31 -0500
Message-ID:
<gjjbce$82s$1@news-int2.gatech.edu>
Roedy Green wrote:
  > However, hardware would naturally return 0, and I would think 0 would
  > be much less of a problem as a result that an unchanged negative
  > result. Sun probably had to check specially for this case since
  > hardware (though I can't say for the JVM byte code) would most
  > naturally return 0.

The man page for abs on my system says this:

Trying to take the absolute value of the most negative integer is not
defined.

Using this C program:
#include <limits.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

int main() {
     printf("%d\n", abs(INT_MIN));
     return 0;
}

I got -2147483648.

Looking at the a.out via objdump -d, it seems that the abs(INT_MIN) was
optimized, so I ran another program to make it harder to optimize, to
find the actual instructions for abs() (the argument and return in eax,
obviously AT&T style, not Intel):
    80483c7: 89 c2 mov %eax,%edx
    80483c9: c1 fa 1f sar $0x1f,%edx
    80483cc: 31 d0 xor %edx,%eax
    80483ce: 29 d0 sub %edx,%eax

This is on an x86 system. I don't think "hardware would most naturally
return 0": it would most naturally return the "simpler" computation.
Returning 0 in an awfully special case would not be terribly simple.

Also, I think it would be reasonable to expect that this one special
case is in practice rather moot. If -2^31 were a viable input to a
program, then I would expect that -2^31 - 1 should also be viable, so
the range of a 32-bit signed integer becomes insufficient for the program.

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