Re: Serious concurrency problems on fast systems

From:
"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com>
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comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:37:52 -0700
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"Arne Vajh?j" <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
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On 02-06-2010 00:57, Mike Schilling wrote:

"Arne Vajh?j" <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
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On 01-06-2010 00:21, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:

I've been assisting in load testing some new high performance servers
running Tomcat 6 and Java 1.6.0_20. It appears that the JVM or Linux is
suspending threads for time-slicing in very unfortunate locations.


That should not come as a surprise.

The thread scheduler does not examine the code for convenience.

Correct code must work no matter when the in and out of
CPU happens.

High performance code must work efficiently no matter when the
in and out of CPU happens.

For
example, a thread might suspend in Hashtable.get(Object) after a call
to
getProperty(String) on the system properties. It's a synchronized
global so a few hundred threads might pile up until the lock holder
resumes. Odds are that those hundreds of threads won't finish before
another one stops to time slice again. The performance hit has a ton of
hysteresis so the server doesn't recover until it has a lower load than
before the backlog started.

The brute force fix is of course to eliminate calls to shared
synchronized objects. All of the easy stuff has been done. Some
operations aren't well suited to simple CAS. Bottlenecks that are part
of well established Java APIs are time consuming to fix/avoid.


High performance code need to be designed not to synchronize
extensively.

If the code does and there is a performance problem, then fix
the code.

There are no miracles.


Though giving a thread higher priority while it holds a shared lock
isn't exactly rocket science; VMS did it back in the early 80s. JVMs
could do a really nice job of this, noticing which monitors cause
contention and how long they tend to be held. A shame they don't.


A higher priority could reduce the problem, but would not
eliminate it.

Arne

PS: I thougth DECThreads came with VMS 5.5 in 1991-


VMS actually gave a boost to *processes* that held locks. Close enough to
the same thing, methinks.

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