Re: When were JSF and JavaBeans created and is this the "correct" way to build web pages in Java technologies?

From:
Lew <lew@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sun, 18 May 2008 01:14:52 -0400
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jmDesktop wrote:

I am curious about something, though. Was JSF and JavaBeans created
as a response to the separation of layers found in ASP.NET (at least 2.0)
or were they simultaneous,


Arne VajhQj wrote:

No. Separation of presentation and code was done before ASP.NET existed.

Look for framework like Struts.

JSF is just the newest and official way of achieving the same.


"Model 2", the Sun fundamental MVC pattern, has been around since at least 1999.
<http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-1999/jw-12-ssj-jspmvc.html>

2002.
<http://java.sun.com/blueprints/guidelines/designing_enterprise_applications_2e/web-tier/web-tier5.html>

Marty Hall, the noted Java writer and professor at Johns Hopkins, reputedly
marked ten points off for every line of scriptlet in a JSP.

or just one quicker than the other to get it to market?


I would say yes, Sun was indeed much quicker than Microsoft to get it to
market. Good point.

Seriously, according to Wikipedia,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller>

The pattern was first described in 1979[1] by Trygve Reenskaug, then working
on Smalltalk at Xerox PARC. The original implementation is described in depth
in the influential paper Applications Programming in Smalltalk-80: How to use
Model-View-Controller.[2]


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Lew

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