Re: Singletons and Swing

Daniel Pitts <>
Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:47:07 -0800
Jason Cavett wrote:

On Feb 16, 7:07 pm, Martin Gregorie <mar...@see.sig.for.address>

Jason Cavett wrote:

On Feb 15, 3:15 pm, Daniel Pitts
<> wrote:

Jason Cavett wrote:

On Feb 15, 12:16 am, Jason Cavett <> wrote:

On Feb 14, 10:16 pm, Daniel Pitts
<> wrote:

Jason Cavett wrote:

I am attempting to design a menu system for an application I am
writing. In it, I want an InsertMenu that exists within multiple
different menus. Currently, I am attempting to do this by making the
InsertMenu a singleton. This is causing a weird issue.
I currently have two menus that hold the InsertMenu - a MainMenu and a
TreePopupMenu. The InsertMenu should be contained within both of
those. However, it seems as though it can only be in one menu at a
time. For example, if the TreePopupMenu has been created (which
happens after I've opened up a new project), the InsertMenu completely
disappears (with no errors or warnings) from the MainMenu.
Is it possible to accomplish what I'm trying to do?
Here is how I am creating my InsertMenu singleton. Could this be the
problem? Thanks.

In stead of sharing a menu-item instance, its common to share an Action
instance. Often the best way to do that is to extend AbstractAction.
The problem that you're seeing is that most swing components (including
JMenus, JMenuItems, etc...) know about their parent. If they are added
to a different container, they remove themselves from there other parent.
The other approach could be to have a simple method that constructs this
menu in a certain other menu (think createInsertMenu(mainMenuBar);).
it is still desirable to share Action instances (they share "disabled"
flags and icons and such).
Anyway, hope this helps,
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Hmmm...that is a good suggestion.
The reason I didn't originally do it is because I wanted to create the
menus on the fly. But after looking at the action classes, I realized
that you can "control" the menus via the actions (L&F, icons, etc).
I'm going to have to look more closely at this.

Alright. My coworker and I came up with a good solution that solves
the issue and gives us context sensitive menus.
Basically, we made InsertMenu *not* a singleton and, instead,
overwrote JMenuItem so that, when it is enabled or disabled, it is
also set visible/invisible, respectively (overwrote "setEnabled" and
"setVisible" so they stay consistent). That way, when the Action (we
have an ActionFactory) is enabled or disable, it will carry over to
our JMenuItem.
It works beautifully and is much better than having a Singleton of the
Thanks for the help. :-)

Just a hint, it is often (not always) better to show that the item is
still there, just not available. Hiding (rearranging) menus in any way
often leads to user confusion.
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That's a good point - not something I thought of.
As an argument, though (and, of course, there's no way you could have
known this about my application), hiding the menu items that aren't
available keeps the menu list from becoming exceptionally long which
requires the user to search through a list of items.
Either way, I will make sure I do some usability testing before I make
the context sensitive menus live.

IMO there are two sides to this question: you need to consider both the
access rights of the signed-on user and the immediate context:

Access rights: never show a user any menu item he doesn't have the
rights to use.

Context: always show the user all the menu items he;s entitled to use,
but grey out the ones that are not valid in the current context.

Applying these two rules keeps the menu sizes under control and, equally
important, a given user always sees the same items in every menu, but
can't use those that are illogical and/or inappropriate in the immediate

The same rules should also apply to buttons.

martin@ | Martin Gregorie
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Normally I'd agree with you, but the problem at hand doesn't seem to
apply here.

Basically, within my application, users are creating trees. However,
only certain nodes can have certain parents. Additionally, there are
many different types of nodes. If I just gray out the ones they don't
need, they still have a huge list to search through when, instead, if
I hide the ones they don't need, they only have 3 or 4, max.

Is there possibly another way to approach this that I haven't thought
of? Thanks.

Well, if there are different "types" of nodes, then the UI should
probably call that out some how. If you can categorize the nodes, you
might be able to create separate menus for each category of node, and
just enable/disable the menus based on category. If you have a lot, see
if you can get some sort of hierarchy going, and then have your menu's
do that. Test both approaches, because the other rule of thumb is the
more common a task, the less "clicks" it should take to complete.

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