Re: Strange applet behaviour on Windows XP

From:

Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk>

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comp.lang.java.programmer

Date:

Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:45:07 +0000

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Andrew Thompson wrote:

Nigel Wade wrote:
..

Applets suck.

That's not the fault of the applets.

That is not really the point.

It probably is in this instance.

..It's the fault of Sun due to their lack of
support for 64bit Linux.

What about ..
- Sun's lack of support to get Java cleared for the latest XP
security so trusted applets can again acces the local
file-system?
- Sun's lack of support for fixing the bug where some OS/FF
combos. will cause a page reload on 'scroll-up'?
- that applets take 'forever to load on' ..what was at the top
of this thread - IE/XP?
- ...and so on

What about them?

That is not why the applets won't work in a 64bit web browser on Linux.

The real issue here, is Sun's support for applets at all.

No, the real (and only) issue *here* is why applets won't run in a 64bit
browser.

I think Sun now consider applets to have been a bad
idea, and would deprecate them if they dared, but their
lack of active support to fix the plethora of open applet
bugs also says 'web start' to me.

But not for those users who cannot use Web Start because it's not supported on
their platform.

The same is true of web start on other platforms.

Huh? What is the 'same' with web start?

It comes on different platforms? It is not suported
on all platforms? It also has bugs/quirks? (I'd say
'yes' to all three of the above. But I am not sure
what you are refering to.)

The lack of support on different platforms. Did I mention anything else?

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