Re: Can extra processing threads help in this case?

From:
Hector Santos <sant9442@nospam.gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.mfc
Date:
Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:59:23 -0400
Message-ID:
<OUUch5q1KHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
Hector Santos wrote:

Peter Olcott wrote:

That means you can only handle 10 request per second.


No it does not. 100 ms is the real-time limit, actual processing time
will average much less than this, about 10 ms.


Now you are even more unrealistic. That means for a 100 TPS,
you need now need 100 threads.


I misspoke here. If your unrealistic transaction time is 10 ms, then
your 1 OCR processor would be able to handle 10O TPS.

But 10 ms processing time is very unrealistic.

But I want you to lookup the term Thread Quantum.


And please do look this up. Its very important Peter.

In short, what you are claiming is that your complete a request and
processing in 1 CPU cycle of context switching. A quantum is around ~15
ms on multi-core/processors.

No matter how you configure it, 10 threads in 1 process, 10 processes
on 1 machine or across machines, you need at least 10 handlers to
handle the 100 TPS with 100 ms transaction times.


10 ms transaction time


Unrealistic. Dreaming.


To prove the point, here is a simple code to show it:

#include <windows.h>

void main(int

    DWORD t1 = GetTickCount();
    Sleep(1); // sleep 1 millisecond
    DWORD t2 = GetTickCount();

You will see the t2-t1 is around ~15 ms. Its call a QUANTUM, your
sleeps is in factors of Quantums:

    Sleep(16) --> 2 quantums or ~30 ms
    Sleep(32) --> 3 quantums or ~45 ms

#include <windows.h>
#include <stdio.h>

void main(char argc, char *argv[])
{
    DWORD t1 = GetTickCount();
    Sleep(1); // sleep 1 millisecond
    DWORD t2 = GetTickCount();
    printf("Sleep Efficiency: %d\n",t2-t1);

    t1 = GetTickCount();
    Sleep(16);
    t2 = GetTickCount();
    printf("Sleep Efficiency: %d\n",t2-t1);

    t1 = GetTickCount();
    Sleep(32);
    t2 = GetTickCount();
    printf("Sleep Efficiency: %d\n",t2-t1);
}

What it means is that in a code that does not do any preemption on its
own (which will slow it down), just natural code, the CPU and OS will
preempt you every QUANTUM.

I sincerely doubt you can do your OCR processing in less than 1
QUANTUM yet alone 10 ms.

Now, here's the thing:

If indeed you can achieve processing in less than 1 quantum or even 2
quantums, then you really should not be worry about anything else
because your OCR system would be among the fast applications in the world!

--
HLS

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