Re: Interplatform (interprocess, interlanguage) communication

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:18:35 -0500
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On 2/11/2012 3:06 PM, Lew wrote:

Arne Vajh?j wrote:

BGB wrote:

it all still basically amounts to:
read a line;
split the string;
do something with the split strings.


????

But that not how you work with XML.

You load it into a DOM and use XPath to pull
out what you need.


Or you scan it with SAX or StAX and deal with XML-parsing events, or
you run the schema through JAXB and let it generate all the parsing
classes for you, or you use one of the many other standard libraries
in Java (or if not Java, in your favorite platform) that are available
for free.


If the size of the XML file allows it then DOM and XPath is
usually the least and most readable code.

You need to depend on some tools.

If you use Java then you depend on standard Java library.

Standard Java library contains several XML parsers.

No extra dependency for Java.


The thing is, BGB, that your macho programming style is impractical
and not very justifiable. It's wonderful that you have reinvented the
programming world and all, and are so clever and knowledgeable, but
most of us programmers work in a workaday pragmatic environment where
best practices really do save the day. That means use the standards,
and the abundant tools that support them, and give up our egos that
make us feel that superman heroics are the only available path. I
sincerely hope that readers of this thread can understand the manifest
shortcomings of the approaches that you've espoused here. (And that
they can disentangle themselves from your fetching but irrelevant
analogies.) To get the job done, to get it done right, and to minimize both error and development time, use the standards.


Bad day??

XML is just fine for just about every purpose to which it's put.
That's why it's popular now. People who cavil about "bandwidth" and
"10 Hz network messages" are tossing us red-herring sashimi. You
aren't going to get 10+ Hz message exchanges over the WAN. For
realistic message rates, XML suits beautifully. I speak from
experience with many, many projects that used every conceivable
message format from binary to CSV to custom to XML to protocol buffers
to JSON, and XML has distinct advantages. Its purported disadvantages
of bulk and bandwidth turn out to be non-issues in practice. Really.
That's real.


????

The industry standard for smartphone apps and AJAX web apps
are JSON because the bandwidth actually matters.

Arne

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