Re: Question on using volatile in a return type

From:
James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:17:26 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
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On Dec 29, 12:59 am, Ichthyostega <Ichthyost...@web.de> wrote:

actually I am asking as well about semantics and best practices...

To start with, I am waiting on a condition variable (in a loop
that is). The actual condition is a bool flag located
elsewhere, which is to be passed in as a function parameter.
So the correct type would be "volatile bool&"

void func1 (volatile bool& flag) {
        // init...

        while (!flag && !err)
                err = pthread_cond_wait (&cond, &mutex);
        // ...
}

The "volatile" should give the compiler a hint not to employ
optimisations but fetch the value from the original location,
where it may have been changed by another thread meanwhile --
is this correct?


Formally, the meaning of "volatile" is largely implementation
dependent; the standard waffles a bit about "access", but
doesn't say what it means by an access (and the C standard says
explicitly: "What constitutes an access to an object that has
volatile-qualified type is implementation-defined.") In
practice, the compilers I know (Sun CC, g++ and VC++) don't
define it to be anything useful.

If you're waiting on a conditional variable, of course, you
don't need volatile, because all necessary synchronization has
been provided by the system requests (e.g. pthread_cond_wait,
pthread_cond_signal and pthread_cond_broadcast under Posix).

And: does the flag referred to have to be declared as volatile
at the original location? (usually somewhere in a class?). Or
is it sufficient to define the reference as volatile bool& ?


Volatile generally isn't relevant to threading. You don't need
it anywhere. (At least for the systems I'm familiar with: Posix
and Windows. A system certainly could define its threading
primitives in a way that made volatile relevant, and require
that compilers implement it in a corresponding way.)

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