Re: Why RTTI is considered as a bad design?

From:
Noah Roberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<1584ed95-a494-42b5-bb04-2aa12c28dbb2@googlegroups.com>
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:57:06 AM UTC-7, Scott Lurndal wrote:

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6=F6_Tiib?= <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
 
 
 

Usually i see dynamic_cast<>() more used for cross-casting rather than d=

own=

 

-casting. I bring an example. A specific Door passed to SomeDoer::open(D=

oor=

 

*) may have Lockable interface or not. To have all Doors Lockable by def=

aul=

 

t would deviate from sane design since most doors can not be locked. Suc=

ces=

 

s of unlocking may depend of availability of Keys or LockPicks or whatev=

er =

 

for this SomeDoer so open() forwards these problems to SomeDoer::unlock=

(Lo=

 

ckable*):

 

 

 bool SomeDoer::open( Door* door ) const

 

 {

 

   // we might need to unlock first on some cases

 

   Lockable* lock =3D dynamic_cast<Lockable*>(door);

 

   if ( lock !=3D NULL && lock->isLocked() && !unlock( lock ) )

 

   {

 

      return false;

 

   }

 

 

   return door->open();

 

 }

 

 

Can you tell how such a situation can be resolved as elegantly without R=

TTI=

 

(or some self-made substitution of RTTI)?=20

 
 
 
The ->unlock() method becomes a no-op on a non-lockable door. In other w=

ords,

 
one may always call unlock, and if the door is lockable, it will be unloc=

ked;

 
if not, no-op.


I'm not a big fan of adding functions to interfaces for subclasses or for p=
ossibly implementable interfaces. I like the RTTI method better.

LSP is just a principle and there are degrees of breaking it. This seems l=
ike a fairly reasonable one, though I might consider having a "maybe_unlock=
" function that does the casting (it's more reusable).

There's a balance here though. Just because there's a violation of LSP doe=
sn't mean the code is bad, it just means that it could be and in a specific=
 way. If you suddenly needed to make some new door type that implemented a=
 different interface such that this open door function no longer worked rig=
ht then you're starting to run afoul of the LSP in bad ways.

An alternative to this kind of thing is a visitor. There could be a door_o=
pener visitor that takes a lockable and a non-lockable door as parameters. =
 In many cases this is a much better alternative to either using RTTI or no=
op functions in base classes that don't belong. For this simple of an issu=
e though it could be very tempting just to violate LSP and call it good. T=
he minus here is that IFF something changes you didn't think would (and thi=
s happens a LOT) then you're kind of screwing yourself by being lazy. But =
it's a balancing act.

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