Re: Will Modern C++ Design ever get fixed?

From:
Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org>
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Date:
Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:53:07 CST
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On 10/15/2010 04:19 PM, Witold Kuzminski wrote:

On Oct 12, 1:07 am, Andrei Alexandrescu
<SeeWebsiteForEm...@erdani.org> wrote:

Is it ever going to be fixed? Anyone knows?


The threading-related stuff in Modern C++ Design has aged badly and
contains statements about "volatile" that were untrue even in
2001.


Same can be said about DCLP.


Yes and no. In the real world DCLP is used in code of various degrees of
non-portability that needs to meet certain performance requirements.

At this point fixing the 18th printing book will not fix the
copies already sold and will not effectively dispel possible
misconceptions.


It would not fix the copies already sold, but it would help dispel
possible misconceptions by containing the damage. Do you mean you
are not going to fix it?


I have contacted my editor to address the matter. I doubt it would have
a measurable effect though, but it's good to set the record straight.
Thanks for bringing the issue to my attention.

You may want to point out anyone who uses the volatile-related
quote in the book as reference to the article
http://www.aristeia.com/Papers/DDJ_Jul_Aug_2004_revised.pdf which
(a) is coauthored by Modern C++ Design's author, (b) is more
recent than the book, and (c) settles the matter once and for all.


How does it settle the matter? Presented with two contradicting
surces of information: 1. something "on the web" from Jul/Aug 2004
2. the book printed in Feb 2009 I'd check the book errata. Finding
nothing in the arrata I'd say the book was more reliable source of
information. What would you say?


Many things are found on the Web. That doesn't make it wholesale less
credible than printed matter.

After having fixed a lot of errata in printing 13, I have received no
more submissions for years. Since recently I have moved my web server to
a different host, which does not support the database I used for the
errata. For my new book I decided to use a wiki setup, and so the errata
submission flow for Modern C++ Design has been neglected.

P.S. Sorry, I didn't receive email from you.


I could not find your e-mail address. Here is what the link (from
your web page) to your e-mail address brings:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061007145400/cooltext.com/


My email address is, and has been for a very long time, available at
http://erdani.com/email, rendered in graphics to dodge bots. That page
is the first hit for google queries like 'email andrei alexandrescu',
and is linked from my homepage (click on "Email"). The link you point to is a
link to the program that I used back then to convert my email address to an image.

I infer from the tone of some of your posts that you are aggravated by
this issue above and beyond the level of a reader who finds an erratum
in a book. If there's anything I can do to help that, please let me know.

Thanks,

Andrei

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