Re: Typecasting goes the wrong way

From:
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alfps@start.no>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:52:43 +0200
Message-ID:
<1396p46mm030db2@corp.supernews.com>
* James Kanze:

[...] I'm not sure what one would call
the order 2301 (used for longs in PDP-11 and Intel 16 bit
processors). The easiest way to see this is to do something
like:

    uint32_t x = 0x03020100 ;
    uint8_t const* p = reinterpret_cast< uint8_t const* >( &x ) ;
    std::cout << (int)( *p ++ ) ;
    std::cout << (int)( *p ++ ) ;
    std::cout << (int)( *p ++ ) ;
    std::cout << (int)( *p ++ ) ;
    std::cout << std::endl ;

This outputs 3210 on my Sparc, and 0123 on my PC (and 2301 with
earlier versions of the Microsoft compiler, on a PC).


As far as I know and remember all Intel 16 bit processors were little
endian. Regarding the x86 family, they're little endian. The result of
the above program should never be anything but 0123 on an x86 PC, so you
are probably remembering incorrectly how Microsoft's compiler behaved:
if it did produce the result you claim then programs using integers
would not work, which seems very very unlikely (I'm being careful here).

I think the source of your confusion (assuming it is) is that in a
debugger displaying byte values, on a little endian machine the value
0x3210 will typically be displayed as 0x1032. That's then because the
debugger is display memory contents from left to right, whereas our
number notation, inherited from the Arabic dominance of parts of Europe,
is designed for right to left. Simply display memory contents from
right to left, and on the little endian machine, such as a PC, integers
come out right, while of course then ordinary text is backwards...

Regarding the PDP-11 it's been a long time since I did any assembly
programming on the PDP-11 (and the VAX), and what I did was very very
little anyway, but since the PDP-11 was very orthogonal in all ways,
very clean design except that silly stuff of having memory mapped
registers, I think maybe and probably you have that wrong too.

Cheers,

- Alf (correction mode)

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