Re: sorting the input

From:
James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
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On Sep 24, 4:10 pm, Hendrik Schober <spamt...@gmx.de> wrote:

Jorgen Grahn wrote:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT), James Kanze <james.ka...@gmai=

l.com> wrote:

On Sep 19, 12:55 pm, Jorgen Grahn
<grahn+n...@snipabacken.se> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:06:16 +0500, arnuld
<sunr...@invalid.address> wrote:

....


  For me it's very likely also the first time I disagree with
  James. I have seen someone debugging and profiling an
  application for a week to no avail, until he was told to
  replace 'std::endl' by '\n', which made the code he was
  trying to speed up (which wrote big files) ten times faster
  and ended all his performance woes.


Which is stupid too. *IF* you have a performance problem, then
it should be an obvious consideration, along the lines of making
a function inline.

If you know what you're doing, I wouldn't even oppose using '\n'
from the start in a tight loop; although it is premature
optimization, there are worse things you can do. But for most
people, as long as there is no performance problem, std::endl is
the way to go.

  I've been hammering "use '\n' unless you /want/ to flush"
  into quiet a few generations of students since...


Since when? That sounds like the performance problem mentionned
above took place a long time ago. Which means that the
performance difference may have (probably has) become less.

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