Re: #define and (brackets)

From:
"Igor Tandetnik" <itandetnik@mvps.org>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.language
Date:
Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:16:57 -0500
Message-ID:
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"Alan Carre" <alan@twilightgames.com> wrote in message
news:e$8mm$XUJHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

"Igor Tandetnik" <itandetnik@mvps.org> wrote in message
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You yourself show the compiler contradicting itself (the same code
compiles directly, but fails to compile if preprocessed first), and
agree there's a bug somewhere. You cannot then proceed to hold the
behavior of a known-buggy compiler as proof of any facts about the
C++ language. You have to argue from first principles - in this
case, from


I'm not asserting any facts about the C++ language.


You don't? Didn't you claim, in essence, that this program shouldn't
compile ("Thanks cl.exe I wanted an error!"):

#define X -1
int main()
   {
   return -X;
   }

I don't know if I want a "smart" pre-processor. I want it to do
EXACTLY what I tell it to do.


And it does. It's just that you are telling it something different than
what you think you do. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM

If I make a mistake, I want an error to
come out.


I'd love to live in such a world, too. Just to think, I'd never have to
touch a debugger again! Heck, if the compiler knows enough to tell me
whenever I make a mistake, why can't it just write the damn program for
me?

Upon further consideration, no, I don't want to live in such a world. My
employment prospects would be rather grim.

Also, I do believe the compiler is in error for "accepting" -NUM, not
for rejecting the preprocessor's interpretation


You believe incorrectly.
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