Re: [ANN] You Can Program in C++ (book)

From:
"Bronek Kozicki" <brok@rubikon.pl>
Newsgroups:
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Date:
2 May 2006 15:40:21 -0400
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darkknight <darkknight.21@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you give an example of a C++ book that you think is C with C++
added as an afterthought?


I tend to avoid such books and I try not to clutter my memory (nor
bookshelf) with them, but from time to time I do stumble upon some.
Actually, there *might* be one sitting in dark corner of my bookcase,
that's Shtern's "Core C++". Oh, and I "learned" C++ from such handbook
and then wasted 10 years of my professional life - but in 90's good
C++ handbooks were much harder to find than they are now. Thanks to Herb
Sutter and his "Exceptional C++" I started learning the language almost
from zero and I loved it.

Can you give an example of a C idiom that "does not really help
maintaining code dependencies"


off the top of my head:
- Hungarian notation
- use of multiple function names where overloading would make more sense
- writing large functions with single point of return
- exposing class implementation details which effectively makes them
structs

And the other side of the coin is:
- compensating for perceived "lack of C-plus-plus-ness" by overuse,
misuse and abuse of inheritance, overloaded operators, exceptions etc.
Even worse, this is what some poor "C++ handbooks" do - they introduce
C++ as mixture of these new cool features with no explanation how to
use them, at the point when reader is already full of C and the only use
he may put them to is in C programs that he just learned to write. And
that's exactly how C++ programs shouldn't be written - these concepts
have to applied in program from the start, not as an afterthought.

Both problems come from not understanding what really C++ is and poor
handbooks are mainly at fault. The problem is so wide that number of
good C programmers shudder when they have to deal with inheritance,
exceptions, templates or other things that differ C++ from C - as they
never learned C++ . Worst thing is that they think they know C++ -
because they actually made effort to learn it (and just happened to
choose wrong handbook).

and explain exactly why learning it
disadvantages a C++ programmer.


here is perfectly fine piece of C code:

   char* pa = malloc(20);
   if (pa)
   {
     /* do something with pa */
     free(pa);
   }

.... but when you learn that "in C++ we use new instead of malloc" and
try to aply this knowledge to above code, not understanding what
exceptions are, yet (they are introduced 3 chapters later, if reader
happens to reach them), that's recipe for distaster. And I see these
disasters happening all the time.

B.

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