Re: Abandonment of aggregate types

From:
bop@gmb.dk ("Bo Persson")
Newsgroups:
comp.std.c++
Date:
Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:10:22 GMT
Message-ID:
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"Frederick Gotham" <fgothamNO@SPAM.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:DO1Hg.13005$j7.325536@news.indigo.ie...

NOTE: I have already replied to this, but for some idiotic reason,
it wasn't
let through (or maybe it's another case of my posts showing up three
days
later -- either way, the moderators are doing a bad job).


I think the moderators do a good job - most often my silly remarks are
not let though. :-)

In this case I believe that I have a point though, something about C++
being a multi paradigm language. There really is no One True
Style(tm), it depends on how we use the language, and what paradigm we
subscribe to.

I am surprised that the moderation process would let this blasfemy
pass. Don't listen to the false profet!


Your understanding is false. Mine is true, and is re-enforced by the
following:

int *p, *q, r[5], (*s)[5], *t[5], Func(), *Func2();

   p is a pointer.
   q is a pointer.
   r is an array of five.
   s is a pointer to an array of five.
   t is an array of five pointers.
   Func is a function which returns an int.
   Func2 is a function which returns a pointer to an int.


I agree that this is allowed by the language because of its
inheritance, but also believe that we should not use it this way -
it's a C-ism. This is where it gets religious! Some things are
possible, but should be avoided anyway. On "moral" grounds perhaps?

You want:

   T *&p_t


No, you definitely want

T*& p_t


Convince him.


Convice who? This is what triggered my response.

In my mind, this is similar to "should I be a catholic or a
protestant?". How do we know what is right? Could they both be true?
If I'm a protestant, should I be a baptist, or a member of the
Salvation Army? Don't know.

Perhaps I use C++ very much like "C with classes", because that is how
I once learned programming, in Simula (Algol with classes). There we
had the interesting parameter "modes" pass-by-name, pass-by-value, and
pass-by-reference. I never though of the parameter passing as part of
the type.

If you use the One True Style(tm), there is never a problem with
declarations. You first fully specify the type, and then the name.


Your way of doing it gives a false impression -- it implies that the
asterisks and ampersands are part of the type's name.


And they are. :-)

That's why I used "blasphemy", because we both now that we are right
and the other one is wrong. Perhaps it didn't come out exactly as I
imagined - sarcasm is difficult in your second language.

Bo Persson

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