Re: Is c++ only better c ?

"Chris M. Thomasson" <no@spam.invalid>
Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:44:50 -0700
"James Kanze" <> wrote in message
On Oct 24, 11:55 am, Maxim Yegorushkin <>

On Oct 24, 10:27 am, Pawel_Iks <> wrote:

I've read somewhere that c++ is something more than better c
... then I talk with my friend and he claimed that c++ is
nothing more than better c ... I tried to explain him that
he was wrong but I forgot all arguments about it. Could
someone told something about it?

Some actually consider C++ to be worse than

You'll find some idiot to defend just about any position. (Not
that all people who are critical of C++ are idiots. But the
intelligent ones don't like C either; the real problem with C++
is that it inherits too much from C.)

C++ definitely improves C. It also adds a lot of things which
support idioms which aren't supported in C. I suppose that you
could call support for OO,


You can get "fairly clean" abstract interfaces in C; something as simple as;
quick code scribbling - may have typo:

struct IShape_VTable {
  void (*IObject_Destroy) (void*);
  void (*IShape_Draw) (void*);
  /* ect... */

struct IShape {
  struct IShape_VTable* VTable;

#define IObject_Destroy(Self) ( \
  (Self)->VTable->IObject_Destroy((Self)) \

#define IShape_Draw(self) ( \
  (Self)->VTable->IShape_Draw((Self)) \

That all the infrastructure. Now to create actual shapes...

extern struct IShape*
 /* ... */

#include "Circle.h"
#include <stdlib.h>

static void Circle_IObject_Destroy(void*);
static void Circle_IShape_Draw(void*);

static struct IShape_VTable Circle_VTable = {

struct Circle {
  struct IShape IShape;
  /* ... */

struct IShape*
 /* ... */
) {
  struct Circle* Self = malloc(*Self);
  if (Self) {
    Self->IShape.VTable = &Circle_VTable;
    return &Self->IShape;
  return NULL;

 void* IObject
) {

 void* IShape
) {
  struct Circle* const Self = IShape;
  /* ... */

Now, finally we can use the Circle via. the abstract interfaces IShape and

#include "Circle.h"

int main(void) {
  struct IShape* Shape = Circle_Create(/* ... */);
  return 0;

There... simple!


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