Re: A subtle access issue (may be advanced :-) )

From:
ld <laurent.deniau@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:19:15 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<2b4e0d1d-7f0b-4418-9062-589c5d748d10@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
On 30 ao=FBt, 04:42, "Alf P. Steinbach" <al...@start.no> wrote:

* ld:

On 29 ao=FBt, 09:11, "Alf P. Steinbach" <al...@start.no> wrote:

The following code compiles as-is with g++ and Comeau Online, but not =

when then

the commented lines are uncommented:

<code>
#include <stddef.h>

template< class T > T* create();

class Base
{
template< class T > friend T* create();
private:
     static void* operator new( size_t size )
     {
         return ::operator new( size );
     }

// static void operator delete( void* p )
// {
// ::operator delete( p );
// }

protected:
     virtual ~Base() {}

};

class Derived
     : public Base
{
public:
     Derived() {}
     virtual ~Derived() {}

};

template< class T >
T* create() { return new T; }

int main()
{
     create<Derived>();}

</code>

With uncommenting the commented code both compilers complain that the =

Derived

destructor can't access Base::operator delete.

They don't complain that the Derived constructor can't access Base::op=

erator new.

I can understand the lack of complaint for the constructor: the constr=

uctor

doesn't need to access the allocation function, which is invoked by th=

e new

expression which is in the context of the create function which has ac=

cess.

I don't understand the complaint for the destructor. The new expressio=

n has to

potentially deallocate, if an expression is thrown. But it manages wel=

l to use

the allocation function, so why can't it also use the deallocation fun=

ction?

In short, why this different treatment?

It almost seems as if the standard supports an implementation techniqu=

e where

the call to the deallocation function is made directly from *within* t=

he most

derived class' destructor?


[snip explanation of machine code level -- I don't think it should influe=

nce

access!]

BTW, why don't you declare Base::operator delete as protected instead
of private since its role is more or less the same as the destructor
~Base() ?


That's what I had to do, but the reason for the "private:" is to express =

in the

language that a derived class' code can't do 'delete this'.

With protected access it can. :-(

Cheers,

ld.


Thanks :-) Although I disagree (very strongly) that access rules should b=

e

affected by possible implementation techniques for the compiler.


I fully agree that it should not influence the access. I was just
giving a possible explanation why this pre-standard behavior may
happened. In particular it does not follow ISO/IEC 14882:1998(E) (Free
Store) 12.5 =A78

"Access to the deallocation function is checked statically. Hence,
even though a different one might actually be executed, the statically
visible deallocation function is required to be accessible." [example
follow].

Therefore, the compiler should clearly report a diagnostic, whatever
implementation it uses.

Cheers,

ld.

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