Re: ADL now explicitly prohibits finding non-functions

From:
Greg Herlihy <gregh@podbridge.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++.moderated
Date:
Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:55:04 CST
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On 8/15/07 1:38 PM, in article f9vhac$i63$1@news.datemas.de, "Victor
Bazarov" <v.Abazarov@comAcast.net> wrote:

The concern that we have is that limiting the lookup to function only
may end up breaking code like this:

    namespace A {

        struct Foo {};

        struct ff {
            ff() {}
            void operator()(const Foo&) {}
        };

        ff f; // global object of type 'ff'
    } // namespace A

    int main() {
        f(A::Foo()); // f.operator()(A::Foo())
    }

where no ambiguity existed (at least in G++ implementors' minds).

What was the reason for the change in [basic.lookup.argdep]/4 (I
couldn't find the document or the discussion for it on Committee
web pages), and has the situation with functors been considered?


The specific defect report that led to this change is #218 on the C++
Language defects list:

    http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2007/n2367.html#218

According to the defect report's discussion, the intent of this specific
change was merely to codify the "status quo". The larger issues - whether
ADL should distinguish between functions and non-function names, or whether
names in other namespaces should be pulled into the current namespace (and
thereby somewhat defeat the purpose of placing the names in separate
namespaces to start with) remain controversial - and at this point -
apparently without resolution.

Greg

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