Re: How to do "derived" type extensions?

From:
Salt_Peter <pj_hern@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:33:24 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
<41d0da02-ba7a-4b9f-936c-3d339a65d3ec@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 8, 10:07 am, Kira Yamato <kira...@earthlink.net> wrote:

On 2008-01-08 09:37:11 -0500, Salt_Peter <pj_h...@yahoo.com> said:

On Jan 8, 8:17 am, Kira Yamato <kira...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Suppose class B is a subtype of class A, i.e.,
class B : public A
{
...
};
Then, in C++, a pointer to type B can be treated as a pointer to type
A. So, I can do the following:
B *b;
A *a = b;
This morphism of types is what makes C++ so powerful.


What perhaps needs to be noted is that an instance of type B is_an
instance of type A.
Its not correct to say that a pointer to a B 'can be treated' as a
ponter to an A.


I never even define the term "can be treated". So, how can you say it
is incorrect?

[...]

But now how do I do the following kind of morphism? Suppose I have functions
void foo(const B &);
and
void bar(const A &);
I like to be able to declare a function pointer
void (*fp)(const B&);
and make "polymorphic" assignments like
p = foo; // this is ok in C++.
p = bar; // semantically this make sense, but C++ syntax won't
allow this!


Of course it doesn't. If it did we'ld all play russian roulette.


Huh?

I know the last line of code is not valid C++ because the function
signatures are required to be the same.
However, on a semantic level,
I should be allowed to substitute calls to foo with calls to bar. This
is what I mean:
B b;
foo(b); // I can substitute the function foo in this line to
bar(b); // the function bar in this line.


Yes, absolutely, its not 'should' - you definitely can and do.

So, at least on a semantic level I should be able to declare a
"polymorphic" function pointer that can points to both foo and bar
types.
void (*fp)(const B&) = bar;
fp(b); // here, b is passed as type A to fp since bar accepts
type A argument.

But I can't, because C++ doesn't work this way.


Thankfully so. You are expecting a pointer to a function with a given
signature to accept a function signature of another type. How do you
expect a call for one signature to induce a call to anything viable?


But it is not just any arbitrary type. B is a subtype of A. This is
important. It makes the calls compatible in the following sense (in my
comment after the following paragraph).

Are you seriously suggesting that a program should silently construct
an instance of B in order to accept a reference to a base class?


No. There is no need to construct an instance of B. Suppose we forced
        void (*fp)(const B &) = (void (*)(const B &)) bar;
where I remind you that
        void bar(const A &);
Then the call
        fp(B());
is equivalent to
        bar(B());
which is perfectly ok because B is a subtype of A.

Thats
ludicrous and insane.


Maybe it's just because you didn't understand what I was trying to do.
I'm saying this because your program below is not what I was trying to
do.

Basicly, the solution is to declare
void (*fp)(const A&);
the parameter of function at the pointer can be any_kind_of_A.

#include <iostream>
#include <typeinfo>

class A
{
public:
  virtual ~A() { } // <---- polymorphism
};

class B : public A { };
class C : public B { };

void bar(const A& a)
{
  std::cout << typeid(a).name() << std::endl;
}

void foo(const B& b)
{
  std::cout << typeid(b).name() << std::endl;
}

int main()
{
  void (*fp)(const A&);

  fp = &bar;
  A a;
  fp(a);
  B b;
  fp(b); // <- b is passed as a B, see output below
  C c;
  fp(c);

  void (*fp_b)(const B&);
  fp_b = &foo;
  fp_b(b);
  // fp_b(a); // error:
              // invalid initialization of reference
              // of type 'const B&' from expression
              // of type A
}

/*
A
B // <- whats this !
C
B
*/


Your program is not what I'm trying to accomplish. Your polymorphism
is just on the argument of the function. In fact, why did you even
declare pointers to functions fp and fp_b at all? You could've just
used bar and foo directly.

What I was trying to do is to declare a single pointer to functions
that do not have exact signature but are compatible in the sense I
described above, which I will describe to you again:

If I declare a pointer which points to a function that expects type B,
then it is semantically accepted to use in place of this pointer
another function that actually expects only type A. This is because
when you invoke through this function pointer, the argument of type B
can be passed as an argument of type A. Here we assume B is a subtype
of A.

[...]
Sorry, hacking is not programming.


Just curious... What you define hacking as?

--

-kira


Not meant to upset you. Honest.
take a look at the following, perhaps you'll get my drift:

#include <iostream>
#include <typeinfo>

class A
{
public:
  virtual ~A() {}
  virtual void foo() const { std::cout << "A::foo()\n"; }
  virtual void bar() const { std::cout << "A::bar()\n"; }
};

class B : public A
{
public:
  void foo() const { std::cout << "B::foo()\n"; }
  void bar() const { std::cout << "B::bar()\n"; }
};

template< typename T >
void func(const T& t )
{
  std::cout << typeid(t).name() << std::endl;
  t.foo();
}

int main()
{
  A a;
  func(a);
  B b;
  func(b);

  void (*fp)(const A&);
  fp = &func<A>;
  fp(a);
  fp(b);
}

/*
A
A::foo()
B
B::foo()
A
A::foo()
B
B::foo()
*/

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