Re: A simple unit test framework

Pete Becker <>
Sun, 06 May 2007 16:40:37 -0400
Phlip wrote:

Pete Becker wrote:

When I was a QA manager I'd bristle whenever any developer said they'd
"let testers" do something. That's simply wrong. Testing is not an adjunct
to development. Testing is a profession, with technical challenges that
differ from, and often exceed in complexity, those posed by development.
The skills required to do it well are vastly different, but no less
sophisticated, than those needed to write the product itself. Most
developers think they can write good tests, but in reality, they simply
don't have the right skills, and test suites written by developers are
usually naive. A development manager who gives testers "complete freedom"
is missing the point: that's not something the manager can give or take,
it's an essential part of effective testing.

Nobody said to fire all the testers. You made that up, then replied to your

Agreed: nowhere has anyone said to fire all the testers. The text you
quote does not in any way address such a (non-existent) assertion.


    -- Pete
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Author of "The Standard C++ Library Extensions: a Tutorial and
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