Re: rvalues and lvalues

From:
Frank Birbacher <bloodymir.crap@gmx.net>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++.moderated
Date:
Thu, 8 Dec 2011 21:56:26 -0800 (PST)
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Hi!

Am 08.12.11 18:25, schrieb Daniel Kr??gler:

On 2011-12-07 23:40, Frank Birbacher wrote:

Questions:
1. Why does the latter not call itself?


Because x is an lvalue!


Am 08.12.11 18:26, schrieb Andrzej Krzemie??ski:

This has to do with the nature of rvalue references. Rvalue reference
(in our case: x) binds to rvalues, but it is itself an lvalue. A named
reference (even an rvalue reference) is an lvalue. Therefore
expression x << y picks an lvalue overload.


Ah, I see. The point I was missing is: it's not all about the type of x,
but actually about the static property of the expression involved. Now
that I lost my misconception everything fits together.

Am 08.12.11 18:25, schrieb Daniel Kr??gler:

Consider:

void foo(std::vector&& x) {
 std::vector y = x; // Assume this would move the contents
                    // of x into y...
 if (x.size() > 2) { .. } // x is used as if it where unchanged..
};

This is the typical "auto_ptr-gotcha" problem!

[snip]

void foo(std::vector&& x) {
 std::vector y = std::move(x); // Yes, I want to modify x!


For assigning the rvalue reference I expected a move to occur. The
std::move looked redundant to me. Now I see the need. It's not there to
change the type of x, but to turn it into an rvalue expression.

2. Should the latter one read:
  return std::move(x<< y);
?


Yes, this is correct. The expression "x << y" is an lvalue and applying
std::move to it in this case ensures move semantics for the return
statement.


Ok, I guess today I have successfully used this technique to correctly
return a unique_ptr member variable from a member function.

Am 08.12.11 18:26, schrieb Andrzej Krzemie??ski:

BTW, here is the post where I tried to explain some aspects of rvalues
and lvalues:
http://akrzemi1.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/lvalues-rvalues-and-references/


Great, I've read both your article and Bjarne's.

Thank you both!
Frank
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