Re: Initializing member references to dummy member variables

James Kanze <>
Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:35:01 -0700 (PDT)
On Monday, 12 August 2013 04:29:56 UTC+1, K. Frank wrote:

Suppose I have a class that has a member reference
variable, and sometimes I want to initialize it,
and sometimes I don't. How much sense does it make
to initialize it to a dummy member variable (to shut
the compiler up)?

As a concrete example, let's say I have a class that
is constructed with a value of or reference to some kind
of handle, but the handle might be a number or it might
be a string:

   struct Handle {
     Handle (int iHandle) :
     Handle (const std::string& sHandle) :
     const int iHandle_;
     const std::string& sHandle_;
     bool useIHandle_;
     std::string dummy_;

The point is that the member reference variable sHandle_
is supposed to be initialized (in the constructors'
initialization lists), whether or not it's actually
going to be used. The constructor that takes an int
argument doesn't have any std::strings floating
around with which to initialize sHandle_, hence the
introduction of the member variable dummy_.

Is this a reasonable approach? Is there an established
idiom for doing this kind of thing?

Why is the variable a reference? The class std::string
represents values, and in most cases, should be a value, and not
a reference. For starters, references can dangle.


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