Re: Problem with array objects

From:
"Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Thu, 26 May 2011 21:15:20 +0100
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"A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> wrote in message
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On 2011-05-25, Paul <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

"A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

When you dereference a pointer to int you access the pointed to integer
object like so :
int x=5;
int* px = &x;
std::cout<< *px;
//this will output 5 because dereferencing px accesses the object it
points
to.

With an array the situation is not the same becasue an array cannot be
accessed, as a whole. The only way we can point to an array is to point
to
one of its elements.
int arr[3] = {1,2,3};
int* parr = arr;
int (*pparr)[3] = &arr;

std::cout<< *parr;
//outputs 1 because it points to the first element of the array.
std::cout<<*pparr;
//outputs a memory address because it points to an array-type object.


The situation with the unary * and unary & operators is the same for
an array and for a non-array. The C++ standard does not specify
different behaviors depending on whether the operand of the unary *
and unary & operators is an array or non-array.

Here is the paragraph from the C++ standard about the unary *
operator.

 The unary * operator performs indirection: the expression to which
 it is applied shall be a pointer to an object type, or a pointer to
 a function type and the result is an lvalue referring to the object
 or function to which the expression points. If the type of the
 expression is "pointer to T", the type of the result is "T".
 [Note: a pointer to an incomplete type (other than cv void ) can be
 dereferenced. The lvalue thus obtained can be used in limited ways
 (to initialize a reference, for example); this lvalue must not be
 converted to an rvalue, see 4.1. ]

The C++ standard does not specify different behaviors for an array
and a non-array with the unary * operator.

Here is the paragraph from the C++ standard about the unary &
operator.

 The result of the unary & operator is a pointer to its operand.
 The operand shall be an lvalue or a qualified-id. In the first
 case, if the type of the expression is "T", the type of the result
 is "pointer to T". In particular, the address of an object of type
 "cv T" is "pointer to cv T", with the same cv-qualifiers. For a
 qualified-id, if the member is a static member of type "T", the
 type of the result is plain "pointer to T". If the member is
 a nonstatic member of class C of type T, the type of the result is
 "pointer to member of class C of type T." [Example:

   struct A { int i; };
   struct B : A { };
   ... &B::i ... // has type int A::*

 --end example] [Note: a pointer to member formed from a mutable
 nonstatic data member (7.1.1) does not reflect the mutable
 specifier associated with the nonstatic data member. ]

The C++ standard does not specify different behaviors for an array
and a non-array with the unary & operator.

A difference with array and non-array results is that
array-to-pointer conversion is applied to an array result.

In your example, the statement

 int* parr = arr;

implicitly applies array-to-pointer conversion to the array result of
the expression arr. The result of that conversion is a pointer to
the first element of arr, not a pointer to arr. Because parr is a
pointer to int, the result of dereferencing it is an int.

In your example, the statement

int (*pparr)[3] = &arr;

initializes pparr with a pointer to arr, not a pointer to an element
of arr. Because pparr is a pointer to an array of int, the result of
dereferencing it is an array of int. Array-to-pointer conversion is
implicitly applied to that result and the result of the conversion
is a pointer to int that points to the first element of arr.

An array identifier such as 'arr' is an array-type object. A pointer to
this
object points to a single object, not to an array of thi sobject type.


The result of using the identifier 'arr' in an expression is an
array. An array is a single object that contains sub-objects. The
expression &arr points to the object that is the array named arr.

Given the declaration

 int arr[4];

a C++ implementaion creates an array object to represent the array,
but it does not also create an object that stores a pointer to the
array object, unless one is explicitly present, say due to the
declaration

 int (*pparr)[4] = &arr;

Due to that statement a C++ implementation creates a pointer to
array object that is initialized to point to the array. The
pointer points directly to the array object.


The pointer pparr above points to a single object not an array of
objects.
Consider this:

int (*p)[3]=0;
 std::cout<<*p<<std::endl;
 std::cout<< typeid(*p).name()<<std::endl;
 std::cout<< sizeof(*p);

Does the above pointer point to a valid object?
Or is it completely UB because its dereferencing a null pointer?


Having the value of a pointer be the null pointer is valid. The
effect of dereferencing the null pointer is undefined.

A few followups ago I posted the code generated by a GNU C++ compiler
to show how an array object and a pointer to an array object were
implemented. I don't know of any compiler that adds an object that
stores a pointer to the array for each array. I don't know of
anything in the C++ standard that requires an object that stores
a pointer to an array for each array. If you do, please provide
details.

An array object must store a pointer otherwise how does it know, where
in
memory, the array is?


The post you have replied to up till here was not a post by me.
I believe the following is addressed toward sme.


The post that I replied to, and that is quoted above in the lines
starting with ">>>", was posted by you. If the newsreader you use
has a function to go back to the post that a reply is to, use that
function to go back 3 replys to get to the post in which the lines
above starting with ">>>" were originally written. Otherwise, open
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/msg/c53faaea6144e685?hl=en


Ok sorry I lost track of these threads a little bit there.
SO what exactly is your arguemnt about arrays again?

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