Re: why does this work with Visual C++ 2005?

From:
James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Tue, 1 Oct 2013 04:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<5556c4f6-1149-403f-8f42-7182cc26f9aa@googlegroups.com>
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 07:03:22 UTC+1, gwowen wrote:

"K. Frank" <kfrank29.c@gmail.com> writes:

Is this purely a wart on c++ due to backward compatibility and the
long history of c/c++? Or does it actually make sense (at least in
part) when viewed through modern eyes?


I think its a wart. I totally understand the decisions that were made,
but it'd be nice to see the deprecated in favour of std::array.


Except that std::array doesn't replace it in its main uses. You
can't pass an `std::array` to a C interface (you need to take
the address of it's first element explicitly), and you can't get
the compiler to calculate its dimensions from the number of
initializers.

I think the C++ committees lack of interest in C99 VLAs
suggest they're not keen on them anyway (VLAs are worse,
having no way to recover from OOM).

I hate almost all of C's array handling, especially the way the

typedef char typedefed_array_type[10];

breaks the type system in subtle ways.


Array types are broken in C. That's well known. But for
historical reasons, it's something we have to live with.

For example:

void fun(typedefed_array_type x)
{
   typedefed_array_type y;

   assert(sizeof(x) == sizeof(y));
}

Any type that triggers that assert is wartier than a warthog with HPV.


But you probably wouldn't want to pass an array by value anyway.
And if you use pass by reference:

    void
    fun( typedefed_array_type const& x )
    {
        typedefed_array_type y;
        assert( sizeof(x) == sizeof(y) );
    }

the assert doesn't trigger. (But of course, in most cases,

    typedef std::vector<char> typedefed_array_type;

would be far more appropriate. I'm not arguing that C style
arrays are a good thing. Just that we cannot deprecate them
because there is nothing else which does what they do.)

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James

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