Re: Inline classes

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"Jim Langston" <tazmaster@rocketmail.com>

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Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:25:26 -0700

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neelagain@hotmail.com wrote:

On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "Jim Langston" <tazmas...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

neelag...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Perhaps this question needs to be in Visual Studio forum, but, I
think it must be applicable to general C++ programming as well.

I have an inline class. In case this is only visual studio
terminology, by that I mean I have a class which has ALL the
functions inline (no member variables) and I have not included that
class in project (it's 500 lines long and expected to grow to 600 -
although I don't think line numbers shouldn't matter that much).
But, there are classes which are using the object of this class.

To know what's the difference between when I am using this class and
when I am not, I measured obj file size with and without this class
usage (see below).

What I wanted to know is, at what point it becomes intolerable to
have inline classes? I suppose, it must depend on compiler as well
but I thought I should ask if there is a general guiding principal
when I should _stop_ using this approach.

Note: File 1 & 2 are the ones that are using object of this class
(different methods call in each file).

Debug

File 1 File 2
----------
---------
With class usage/inclusion 299 KB 343 KB
Without class usage/inclusion 247 KB 296 KB
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Difference 52 KB 47 KB

Release
File 1 File 2
----------
---------
With class usage/inclusion 277 KB 299 KB
Without class usage/inclusion 231 KB 259 KB
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Difference 46 KB 40 KB

Thanks,
Neel.

Unfortunately, this question really can't be answered because the
answer is: it depends. What does it depend on? Does the saving of
having the
functions inlined offset the increased file size of the executable.
If the exe file size plus memory usage is great enough to cause
excessive page swapping then the program will run slower as it waits
for hard drive read/writes as the executable memory pages are
swapped out to disk. For an incresae of 53KB it is hard to say. Only
testing would tell.

--
Jim Langston
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Hi Jim,

Thanks for the reply. The same difference in object does not translate
to increase in size for executable (dll) - I missed calculating that
first time. Does that somehow changes the equation? Of course in the
end all will depend on performance/storage required AND senior team
member :-) . But, is the difference in the file size given below
somehow makes it acceptable _in general scenario_?

Debug

                               File 1 Dll Size
                               ------- ---------
With class usage/inclusion 404 KB 2092 KB
Without class usage/inclusion 247 KB 2096 KB
---------------------------------------------------
Difference 157 KB 4 KB

Release
                                File 1 Dll Size
                                ------ --------
With class usage/inclusion 361 KB 1128 KB
Without class usage/inclusion 231 KB 1124 KB
----------------------------------------------------
Difference 130 KB 4 KB

Doesn't matter if it's 50K increase, 100K increase or 1000MB increase. You
have to test. There is no answer for you other than test and see. And even
then, it may run faster on one computer with inlining, faster on another
computer without inlining (physical memory available, hard drive speed,
memory available for program executation, etc..).

--
Jim Langston
tazmaster@rocketmail.com

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