Re: parallel gc versus serial gc

From:
"Remon van Vliet" <remon@exmachina.nl>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:31:43 +0100
Message-ID:
<45895777$0$320$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
Hello,

First of all, you should make sure your test is a reasonably accurate
simulation of the actual application. Your test will indeed create a lot of
objects but these will all reside in the "young/eden" region of the heap and
will not survive a single garbage collection sweep.

As for garbage collection strategies, consider using the concurrent strategy
(-XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC ). Note that this scheme effectively takes away
some (cpu) resources from your application while it runs in return for
(much) shorter pause times during GC sweeps.

Finally, having to play around with GC strategies is often needed for high
load/high concurrency applications, but consider the possibility that you're
trying to fix a symptom rather than the cause. Your application may be
creating an excessive amount of new objects and/or use an excessive amount
of threads that can access live objects. Perhaps a change in design or
implementation can drastically reduce either and fix the problem rather than
one of it's symptoms. And on that note, is it really necessary for this
application to create 1000 looping threads? Note that having a lot of
threads will always cause context switching overhead so you may want to make
sure they're actually needed. Consider using Runnable tasks and
ThreadPoolExecutor, and keep in mind having extra threads only really adds
to the application performance if there are at least as many physical CPUs
available to the program.

Regards,

Remon van Vliet

"hopehope_123" <hopehope_123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1166353985.804893.51870@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Hi ,

We use oracle application server and have some pausing problems inside
the java vm. The problem shows itself as pausings of executions , when
clients start to get late responses ( here lat e means < 4 sec. ) , i
see more than 10 garbage collector operations . The client applications
are web services and do database queries. The java process ( the os is
sun solaris) , according to the prstat , has > 1000 threads inside ,
and during the garbage collectiong phase , consumes more than 60% cpu
time. ( the server has 2 cpus - 2 gb. ram) The java process uses the
following parameters:

What i think is , the reason of the suspensions is garbage collector
activity.

In order to decrease the time that cause pausing , i either increase
the virtual memory allocated by the java process , or change the
garbage collector method. Before adding up mor memory to teh system ,
i want to be sure the effect of changing garbag ecollector methodology.

The gc used here is serial garbage collector , in order to speed it up
, the documents say that parallel garbage collector is used.

I write a small test program . This program creates 1000 threads .
Each thread creates objects by using new in a loop , and this causes
the garbage collector runs heavily in order to clean teh garbages. And
i run the program bu using different garbage collectors but
unfortunately , i dont see great difference beetween serial and
parallel gc ,and serial gc is faster.

Why does this so?

Serial gc:

timex java -verbose:gc -XX:+PrintGCDetails -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps
-Xmx450m -Xms450m -XX:+PrintGCApplicationConcurrentTime
-XX:+PrintGCApplicationStoppedTime -XX:+UseSerialGC test > test1

real 23.48
user 3:26.67
sys 4.33

parallel gc:

timex java -server -verbose:gc -XX:+PrintGCDetails
-XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps -Xmx450m -Xms450m
-XX:+PrintGCApplicationConcurrentTime
-XX:+PrintGCApplicationStoppedTime -XX:+UseParallelGC test > test1

real 24.35
user 3:24.68
sys 30.95

and here is the test code:

(I run this test on a bigger box , 24gb.ram , 6 dual core solaris cpus
)

cat test.java


import java.util.*;
import java.net.*;
import java.io.*;

class testTh extends Thread
{
  public int val ;
 public testTh ( int pval) { val=pval; }
   public void run() {
   int i=0;
String s =new String("aaaa");
 boolean flag=true;
   while (flag)
{
for (int j=0;j<100000;j++) {
       s = new String("aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa");
}
    i++;
    if (i>10) flag=false;
}
}
}

public class test
{
 public void dene() {
for ( int j=0;j<1000;j++)
 (new testTh(j)).start();

   }
 public static void main(String args[])
  {
       test t = new test();
       t.dene();
}
}

Kind Regards,
hope

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