Re: JPA+hibernate merge vs find fetching lazy collection
Lew wrote:
Entity objects are not really meant for a lot of manipulation
outside the JPA context or by application logic.
Tom Anderson wrote:
No, no, no. JPA is a mechanism, not a policy - JPA entities are not
'meant' for anything. You might think it's a good idea to use JPA
entities that way, but it's something i'd disagree very strongly
with you over - what you're advocating is an Anemic Domain Model,
and it's a bad thing (Martin Fowler says so, so it must be true! :) ):
http://martinfowler.com/bliki/AnemicDomainModel.html
....
Tom Anderson wrote:
But the key thing here is that you have a strong service layer - the
DAOs are almost a detail, i suspect. The service layer is where the
business logic lives, and JPA just supplies structs full of data to it.
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Qualitatively different types? This is an intuitively attractive idea -
domain objects model the entities in the domain, with their natural,
intrinsic behaviour (eg valuing and repaying a mortgage), and the
service layer captures more transaction-script type behaviour (selling
someone a mortgage), if that's what you mean. This is an idea that goes
all the way back to the dawn of EJB, if not before. Is it right? Dunno.
I'd be interested to see how some big server-side Smalltalk systems did
it :).
IOW, "Entity objects are not really meant for a lot of manipulation outside
the JPA context."
--
Lew
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