Re: 32G ram

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:17:10 -0500
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On 12/19/2012 6:28 AM, Nigel Wade wrote:

On 19/12/12 01:22, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 12/18/2012 4:19 AM, Nigel Wade wrote:

On 17/12/12 08:39, Donkey Hottie wrote:

17.12.2012 05:09, Arne Vajh?j kirjoitti:

On 12/16/2012 10:05 PM, mcheung63@gmail.com wrote:

i got 32GB ram, why i can't -Xmx2G, it got an error "Could not
create the Java Virtual Machine"

/root>free -m
total used free shared buffers
cached
Mem: 32387 16973 15413 0 243
11906
-/+ buffers/cache: 4823 27563
Swap: 1906 0 1906
/root>uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 3.6.9-2.fc17.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Dec 4
14:15:28 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


32 bit or 64 bit Java?


Apparently 32 bit, as the i686 OS is 32 bit PAE too.


32bit Java on 32bit Linux should allow an application of up to 4GB. How
much can of that can be allocated to the heap depends on the particular
application. I've allocated more than 2G to heap on a 32bit Linux
system, see this old thread on Google Groups:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB&fromgroups=#!topic/comp.lang.java.programmer/iGr3bxL9ZCA


32 bit Java can in theory use up to 3 GB on 32 bit OS on x86 if the
border between process and system is changed (/3GB). But on Windows
JRocket is supposedly the only Java that can do it.


Sorry, yes, I had confused myself by thinking about PAE. For normal
32bit systems this is true.

32 bit Java can never use 4 GB on 32 bit OS on x86, because that
does not leave any address space for the OS.


However, the OP is using a PAE kernel. That should theoretically allow a
per-process limit of 4GB. I've never had the chance to use PAE kernels
on PAE supported hardware, but IIRC that's what PAE is for, isn't it?


No.

PAE allows you to have more than 4 GB RAM.

PAE does not increase virtual address space at all.

A system with PAE can utilize the RAM by having multiple
processes each having 2 or 3 GB virtual address space
mapped into real RAM.

Or by using a special API that allows one to programmatically
change what some virtual addresses is mapped to.

Arne

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