Re: Where's my Derby?

From:
Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:02:03 +0100
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<alpine.DEB.1.10.1004050047340.5660@urchin.earth.li>
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010, Lew wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

Derby aka JavaDB is included in JDK 1.6, right? So what's happening here:

$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_16"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_16-b01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.2-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
$ javap org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver
ERROR:Could not find org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver


What's happening there is that you didn't include Derby in the
classpath.


I agree with this.

I have Derby, which came with the 1.6.0_18 download but had also come
with my earlier 1.6 downloads, and get the same exact result from that
command that you do. OTOH, when I command

 $ javap -classpath /opt/java/java/db/lib/derby.jar \
 org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver

I get back:

public class org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver extends java.lang.Object
implements java.sql.Driver{
   public org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver();
   public boolean acceptsURL(java.lang.String) throws
java.sql.SQLException;
   public java.sql.Connection connect(java.lang.String,
java.util.Properties) throws java.sql.SQLException;
   public java.sql.DriverPropertyInfo[] getPropertyInfo(java.lang.String,
java.util.Properties) throws java.sql.SQLException;
   public int getMajorVersion();
   public int getMinorVersion();
   public boolean jdbcCompliant();
   static void boot();
   static {};
}


So far so good.

Ergo I conclude you have Derby, too, and that it came with your JDK download.


Well, no. You can conclude that the results i posted do not show Derby is
absent. But unless i can reproduce the commands that worked for you, you
can't conclude that it's present!

Am i [sic] looking for the wrong driver class? Or do i [sic] have to
include some special jar on the classpath? I searched the entire JDK
installation for


Apparently not the *entire* installation.


What's not entire about:

grep -rl EmbeddedDriver $JAVA_HOME

?

This:

locate derby.jar

Also finds nothing.

a mention of EmbeddedDriver, and there was none. Do i [sic] have some
special version of 1.6 which lacks Derby? I have whatever came with
Eeebuntu 3, which is basically Ubuntu 9.04.

I haven't used Derby since before 1.6, so i have no positive control for
how this should work.

Anyway, since it looked like Derby would be a separate download for me, i
[sic] went with H2 instead :).


It's too bad your reason wasn't valid, at least not based on the
information you provided here.


See my response to Mark. There's still no sign of Derby on my machine. My
reason was apparently valid.

According to this rather antique blog post:

http://blogs.sun.com/FrancoisOrsini/entry/ubuntu_users_gets_java_db

Ubuntu decided to make Derby a separate package. Digging around in my
package info, it seems that this is still the case, and i don't have it
installed. And that i can't install it through the package manager,
because of some funky Ubunutu version conflict lameness. Oh joy.

The right solution would probably be to forget about the package mananger
and just install a binary package directly from Sun, which will have all
the right bits in.

Or just keep using H2.

tom

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