Re: Database development

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Date:
Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:56:02 -0400
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On 28-04-2010 04:52, Pitch wrote:

In article<4bd79011$0$284$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, arne@vajhoej.dk
says...

On 27-04-2010 04:54, Pitch wrote:

In article<hr3r1v$bvp$2@news.albasani.net>, noone@lewscanon.com says...

junw2000@gmail.com says...

When I work on database development projects, I use JDBC and SQL. Many
people use hibernate/spring. Can somebody explain the pros and cons of
using JDBC and SQL vs using hibernate/spring on database
developments?


Pitch wrote:

I always believed that ORM systems are forcing you to write your own
business-rules layer apart from the persistence layer. That way database
access is kept simple and easy mantainable.


ORM doesn't force business rules into a separate layer and raw JDBC calls
don't force them into the same layer as persistence.


I disagree.


Can you explain what prevents you from copying business logic and
for that matter presentation logic into Hibernate/JPA data classes?


experience


Well - ORM implementations does not carry experience AI into the
app.

And your experience is not part of the ORM.

Arne

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