Re: Arithmetic overflow checking

From:
lewbloch <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
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"MikeP" wrote:

C# will fit in a lot of places where Java does (or so I assume given what
I know about them, as I'm [sic] don't use either language other than for


You might want to know a little more about the languages before
rendering judgment.

C# and Java run on different platforms - C# far fewer than Java. What
do you mean by "a lot"?

evaluation and case study). Pushing away programmers to other languages
instead of evolving the language according to the expectations (i.e.,
what programmers have come to expect to be standard feature in a given
class of language) is surely a path to obsolescence.


"Surely"? Would you mind providing *any* evidence or logic for that
claim?

Over three decades as a professional programmer, I've had to know a
zillion languages to avoid obsolescence. Those who stuck with Fortran
when C became popular found themselves marginalized with frightening
speed, although of course there is still Fortran work out there. C
programmers had to know shell programming and assembler to get any
work done. If you don't know SQL, you are so screwed. If you stayed
with C when C++ and # and Java came out, you were dooming yourself to
obsolescence, over the large segments of the market. C++ has become
ivory tower and very competitive - unless you're one of the best in
that world, failing to learn other languages "surely" doomed you to
obsolescence. C# and Java are similar in a lot of ways, but language
alone doth not make the program. Software is 1% programming and 99%
deployment and operations. They run in different environments, and
you cannot really use either one without SQL, HTML, Javascript and
things like Python, and now, of course, JQL and other metalanguages.
Don't speak XML? Hello, obsolescence! Can't use JSON? You're
limited. Can't read bytecode? You're less of a Java programmer.

You couldn't be more mistaken in your conclusions. A programmer needs
to know a minimum of two full-fledged programming languages, one with
the ability to create wild pointers, a database-query language, a
shell and at least one scripting language just to be minimally
competent.

Please don't imagine that you're going to impress anyone if you
respond to this post with more of your indirect, suggestive comments
unsubstantiated by even the merest jot of reasoning and evidence.

--
Lew

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