Re: Getting started with Java on a Mac

From:
Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
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Date:
Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:50:11 +0000
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 1/19/2012 8:09 AM, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 1/16/2012 8:24 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:

It looks like Eclipse might fill the bill, I need to do some reading
to figure out which version is appropriate - EE, Classic, etc.


desktop apps => Eclipse IDE for Java Developers

server apps => Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers


Roughly. AIUI, the SQL support is in the EE edition, but not the
standard edition. If you want to use SQL on the desktop, you might like
to get the EE edition.


Support for writing SQL files may be a EE edition thing.

But that is not in my opinion a common thing to do for desktop app
development.

Plain JDBC with embedded SQL or an ORM for writing the code
and then creating the database structure in a database tool.


Mostly true. It's useful to have the database view when developing, for
running ad-hoc queries to look at data and so on. Also, for editing the
generated schema to tweak constraints and indices and so on.

Although, having said all that, i would suggest not starting with an
IDE, or at least not one of any complexity. An editor with automatic
indentation and syntax highlighting will do; TextWrangler is good, and
actually, XCode is a pretty good Java editor, even if it is lacking as
an IDE.


Or jEdit or UltraEdit or NotPad++ or NEdit or ... - there are
plenty of decent editors around.


Most of which aren't relevant in a thread about programming on a Mac. I
mentioned TextWrangler and XCode because they're the best freeware editors
on the Mac.

I agree with the point that every new Java developer should learn to
develop using a standard editor and command line editor to learn about
classpath, jar files etc.etc..


Great minds think alike.

tom

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