Re: J2EE

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Date:
Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:49:26 -0400
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On 8/29/2013 10:54 PM, EricF wrote:

In article <521fc2b1$0$300$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

On 8/29/2013 12:26 PM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:

Having said that, the whole business of differentiations of the Java
platform is awkward and unfortunate.


..NET has similar (client profile, full profile, CF, SL, PCL, WP, Win8).

                                       In order to do many "standard"
things with Java you actually need Java EE libraries. I don't know the
exact history, but I can see a few marketing dudes at Sun back in the
day embracing the "enterprise" buzzword, and deciding that such and such
APIs were enterprise-y...which is meaningless actually.

If you want to do serious work with Java you cannot not do Java EE.
Unless you're really niche. And quite frankly, for most Java developers
the amount of Java EE APIs they need to master is a small percentage of
the whole.


That was how it was, but in latest versions it seems to me that they
have been willing to put more stuff in SE.


Arved may have been referring to jsp/servlets? I think jdbc has moved to SE.
Personally I think you can do a lot of serious work without JEE,
professionally you are likely to need JSP or servlets. (Spring can handle
much of the JEE functionality.)


Most of JDBC has always been in SE.

Things that in early days should have been in SE but ended
up in EE:
* mail client
* web service client
* ORM

Things that in later days has been properly put in SE:
* web service client
* JMX

Arne

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