Re: Do you use a garbage collector (java vs c++ difference in "new")

From:
"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:05:07 GMT
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"Mirek Fidler" <cxl@ntllib.org> wrote in message
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On Apr 12, 7:48 am, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

"Mirek Fidler" <c...@ntllib.org> wrote in message

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On Apr 11, 11:44 pm, Razii <DONTwhatever...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Which "older OS"? Some 30yo?


How about mobile and embedded devices that don't have
sophisticated
memory management? If a C++ application is leaking memory, the
memory
might never be returned even after the application is
terminated.
This is more dangerous than memory leak in Java application,
where,
after the application is terminated, all memory is returned by
VM.


If VM is able to return memory to OS, so it should be C++
runtime.


The JVM can (in principle, at least) compact its heap and return
the
now-free space to the OS. An environment that doesn't allow memory
compaction (which includes most C++ implementations) would find
this
impossible.


Yes, but we are speaking about "application is terminated" situation
here...


Oh. Yeah, arguing that an OS would treat C++ and Java different
during application cleanup is (what's the polite word again? Oh,
right.) questionable.

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