Re: Java EE on tomcat?

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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Date:
Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:47:43 -0400
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On 9/21/2011 10:41 PM, EricF wrote:

In article<4e7a8166$0$281$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=<arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

On 9/21/2011 12:38 AM, EricF wrote:

In article<4e77f29e$0$311$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=<arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

On 9/18/2011 6:30 PM, Torsten Kirschner wrote:

Den 08.09.2011 23:41, skrev Arne Vajh?j:

On 9/8/2011 1:53 PM, nroberts wrote:

If higher ups decided that I had to work with Tomcat...no JBoss or
glassfish or anything...what limitations am I looking at? What parts
of Java EE become unavailable to me?


Tomcat is a web container only (Java EE Web Profile in
Java EE 6 terminology).

[...]

You don't have EJB, JCA, JTA, JMS etc..

[...]

Using the Spring Framework ( http://www.springsource.org/ ), one gets
most of the above, except EJB, I guess. Add Hybernate and you're set.


I don't think Spring has JCA.

I don't think Spring provides JTA or JMS - it just allows to
interface other providers.

It is Hibernate not Hybernate.

Spring really does not provide much of the standards.


I do think Spring is nice but it doesn't try to provide the standards (JEE).
When it first came out, it was a lot easier to use than much of the JEE

stack.

These days JEE has been simplified.


But to me it is difficult to see why go with a non-standard
solution exists when a standard solution exists that does the
same.


Arne, I certainly agree with your comment in general. Personally I like Java
and many parts of JEE, but I'm not sure how "standard" Oracle solutions are.
There are several JEE servers so there are a few options - Websphere,
Weblogic, JBoss, Glassfish, ... I must be missing 1 or 2. But have you ever
ported an EJB from 1 to the other? I have. Standard solutions just aren't that
standard anymore.


Java EE is a standard. WAS, WL, JBoss etc. implements that standard.
Spring is a product that does not implement a standard.

If you have had to change anything other than server specific deployment
descriptors when moving between servers I will suspect the problem
is not in the standard but in the people in front of the keyboard.

Arne

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