Re: Generating a unique string without normal character sets

From:
Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.spamfilter@virtualinfinity.net>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:48:38 -0700
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alexandre_paterson@yahoo.fr wrote:

On Mar 17, 3:15 pm, Daniel Pitts
<newsgroup.spamfil...@virtualinfinity.net> wrote:

Angelo Chen wrote:

On Mar 17, 8:09 pm, Sabine Dinis Blochberger <no.s...@here.invalid>
wrote:

angelochen...@gmail.com wrote:

I use UID to generate a unique number in a server app, here is my
code:
       UID inviteId = new UID();
       String uid = new sun.misc.BASE64Encoder().encode(inviteId.toString
().getBytes());
sample output:
NjhkZmMyNDQ6MTIwMTQ0YTYwMDk6LTgwMDA=
I'd like to have a unique string consists of normal characters, not
sings like = and others, any hint on this? Thanks,
A.c
p.s. normal character set, i meant A to Z, a to z, 0..9

You only want alpha-numeric characters.
You want to look into hashing, not encoding. Did you use BASE64Encoder
without looking up what it's for?

Thanks, will give md5 hash a try, the = sign was acceptable before,
but now no more in the new situation. just a related question, a
unique string will always generate a unique md5 hash?

No, Hashes are never guaranteed to be unique, but the good ones have a
"very low" chance of collision.


Just to nitpick...

You seem to be talking about "Hashes" (with an uppercase 'H') in
general, so I'd argue that a perfect hash is a hash, that a perfect
hash is a good hash and that perfect hashes are guaranteed to be
unique and have zero chance of collision.

So I find that saying: "No, Hashes are never guaranteed
to be unique, but the good ones have a very low chance
of collision" isn't entirely correct and doesn't tell the
whole story about Hashes [sic].

If you need absolutely unique, hash is the wrong way to go.


I'd reword that to:

The hash produced by Java's String hashcode() method is the
wrong way to go in the OP's case.

A perfect hash would be unique and in many case perfect hashes
or minimal perfect hashes are the way to go.

Just my 0.02 nitpick for I just considerably speeded some
process by rewriting a binary search that was happening at
some point by a "one-table-lookup-no-collision" using a
minimal perfect hash ;)


In your description of perfect hashes, the hash-code itself would have
to have as much information in it as the original data. As was
described somewhere else in this thread, you *will* have collisions if
your hash space is smaller than your data space.

You *may* have collisions if your possible data space is larger than
your hash space.

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