Re: Arrays in java

From:
Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:21:48 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<80b9a66d-0b65-435b-adbb-3e61c83c6a54@googlegroups.com>
Roedy Green wrote:

Lew wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
&gt;Know. Don&#39;t guess. Read the JLS.
 
And I have explained to you many times that not everyone can make hide
nor tail of that lawyerly document. YOU can, but perhaps only one in
100 programmers can accurately decode it. It is plain rude to demand
newbies use it. Encourage them yes, but don&#39;t pretend it as a skill


It is plain stupid and evil of you to recommend that newbies not use it.

It is the seminal authoritative document that defines Java.

Your rabid insistence that people ignore it is a huge disservice to those=
 
learning the language.

everyone is suppose to master to justify their existence. You are
using it like some frat hazing.


Which is the better advice in computer programming, to study toward
an understanding in depth the core definition of the language, or
to avoid studying the definition of the language?

What is your problem that gets you foaming at the mouth for the
mere suggestion that the JLS is the core and pinnacle of knowledge
about the definition of the language? Your attitude is as inexplicable
as it is hostile and damaging to those seeking better knowledge.

I further hazard a guess your own ability to decode is somewhat higher
than it is in reality. You just assert your interpretation is the
correct one. Any time I read that fool think I can come up with 4


Show me where I'm wrong. I'm open to learning new things.

Are you?

Why are you so adamant that others recapitulate your shortcomings?

possible interpretations. . The fault it is the document. It was not
written for average programmers but to settle lawyerly disputes over
compiler compliance. That is why they are so many text books to
explain these things in English to programmers.


What exactly do you find unclear about

=93Brackets are allowed in declarators as a nod to the tradition of C and C=
++. The general rules for variable declaration, however, permit brackets to=
 appear on both the type and in declarators, so that the local variable dec=
laration:

=93 float[][] f[][], g[][][], h[]; // Yechh!

=93We do not recommend "mixed notation" in an array variable declaration, w=
here brackets appear on both the type and in declarators.=94

<http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-10.html#jls-10.2>

I would be glad to help you with it.

--
Lew

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