Re: Detect XML document encodings with SAX

From:
Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sat, 24 Nov 2012 02:14:12 -0800 (PST)
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Arne Vajh=F8j wrote:

Lew wrote:

Sebastian wrote:

[snip]

output an encoding of UTF-8, while looking at the file

as they should.

 
No.
 
If the XML prolog specifies another encoding than UTF-8,
then it should not return UTF-8.


True, but I'm saying they should specify UTF-8 in the prolog.

                XML should be encoded in UTF-8 nearly always.


See?
 

XML allows for other encodings.


So? You should use UTF-8 nearly always, i.e., unless there's a compelling=
 
reason not to.

And Java XML parsers support it.


For those rare times when you deviate from the usual UTF-8.

So it should always work.

But SAX is a parser, so it doesn't output, it inputs. What are you telli=

ng us?

 
Output usually mean System.out.println - that works fine with a parser.


His phrasing wasn't clear to me. That's why I asked for clarification.

I could have guessed, too.

If your problem is with reading the file, then the encoding in the XML d=

eclaration

See? You're preaching to the choir.

should suffice to guide the parser. But then why do you talk about metho=

ds that

"output an encoding"?

 
Because he wants to know what it is.
 

However, according to
http://xmlwriter.net/xml_guide/xml_declaration.shtml#Encoding
supported encodings only include UTF-8, UTF-16, ISO-10646-UCS-2,
ISO-10646-UCS-4, ISO-8859-1 to ISO-8859-9, ISO-2022-JP, Shift_JIS,
and EUC-JP,
So it looks like you must not accept XML documents with such a
non-standard encoding.


Those that has researched would know that the XML spec do not
limit the encodings at all. The XML processor must support UTF-8
and UTF-16, but are free to support others.


Perhaps the OP's parser doesn't exercise that freedom, judging by the
symptoms.

'sall I'm sayin'.

Obviously I don't know the answer, but he's asking for suggestions
to investigate, AIUI. He's having encoding problems. His XML is apparently=
 
encoded in Windows-1252, a notoriously funky encoding especially for
the variety of characters with which one might wish to deal. So why not
investigate obtaining material that isn't in such a notoriously funky
encoding, like, oh, say, the old reliable standard UTF-8?

Perhaps that isn't feasible, for reasons as yet unstated, but that's
the nature of brainstorming.

--
Lew

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