Re: OT - GG Spammers

From:
"Andrew Thompson" <andrewthommo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
1 Apr 2007 20:54:41 -0700
Message-ID:
<1175486081.497054.68380@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 31, 3:22 pm, "Andrew Thompson" <andrewtho...@gmail.com> wrote:

I started a thread on Google Groups - asking why Google
could not do more to suppress the torrent of spam to the
comp.lang.java.* hierarchy groups, coming from Google
Groups posters.
<http://groups.google.com/group/Groups-uggestions/browse_frm/thread/2a5e4a9399cb8be7/#>


Some amusing* things happened since then.

A GG apologist challenged me as to what proof I had
that these spammers were using GG.


- I began assembling the proof, by way of linking
to each spam post and quoting the 'X-trace' line.
So far, 10/11 show an origin of GG.
- The apologist slunk off into the shadows
- I got terse with them, asking if they were good
for anything besides weak challenges/apologies
- I myself was blocked by GG for making 'too many
posts'
- I opened an account with JavaKB so I could
continue posting.
- GG has since restored my posting abilities
(through mechanisms entirely unrelated to me,
since there own 'click this if you think it
is wrong' link was broken).

I will probably continue using JavaKB for the
time being** - I have been in contact with the
JavaKB staff and they have already indicated
an interest in making further changes to their
WITUN, in exchange for me promoting it over GG.

If that proceeds as hoped, the end advice will
probably be words to the effect of..
"You might want to change over to a WITUN that
is *not* the source of >90% of all spam to these
usenet newsgroups, so that users of news clients
who filter *all* posts from GG, might also see
your message."

Note that JavaKB not only a offers access to
a much more Java focused set of groups (so
they are inherently of less interest to the
spammers that wish to multi-post widely) but
the first comment below *every* reply to a
post, states..
"Do not post SPAM or messages that violate
any laws. Violation of this requirement will
result in account deactivation. "

* OK.. amusing to me, anyway. ;-)
** Failing posts to GGG's (Google Groups groups,
like the one linked above) ..and this post,
since strangely I could not find it in the
JavaKB listing - I will have to look further
into that. I suspect it was filtered, and I
do not agree that the WITUN should do that
(short of an user initiated *choice* to filter
spam).

Andrew T.

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