Re: News for Java?

From:
Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:46:14 +0000
Message-ID:
<alpine.DEB.1.10.1101151331120.23722@urchin.earth.li>
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Wanja Gayk wrote:

In article <igd1bq$34e$1@news.albasani.net>, noone@lewscanon.com says...

For example, it shows an evolution of lambda expression syntax
from 2009-12-10:
   #()(42)
   #(int x)(x + 1)

to 2010-07-06:
   { -> 42 }
   { int x -> x + 1 }

to 2010-10-10:
   #{ -> 42 }
   #{ int x -> x + 1 }
and the nilary lambda syntax
   #{ 42 }


Personally I would prefer a syntax much like the one from the "First
Class Method"-proposal:
#(){42}
#(int x){x+1}
I like it, because is looks just like a normal method, but without the
name - an anonymous, first class method so to speak.

The last proposal (2010-10-10) doesn't quite look like Java to me.


Indeed. I utterly fail to understand why so many of the lambda cranks (but
most notably the BGGAs) are so insistent on un-javaish syntax.

I note that the syntax you bring up is still not quite like a method,
because of the lack of a 'return'; the more javaish syntax would be:

#() {return 42;}
#(int x) {return x + 1;}

Succumbing to the lambda syntax curse myself, i would suggest that if we
want a shorter form for lambdas whose body is just a return statement with
a single expression, we should have something that looks like an
expression:

#() = 42
#(int x) = x + 1

I appreciate that that might present parsing difficulties, both for humans
and compilers. You'd be using it in contexts like:

List<Integer> numbers;
List<Integer> squares = numbers.collect(#(int x) = x * x);

Which is not so bad, but also:

#int(int) = #(int x) = x + 1;

Which is a bit freaky. As an aside, i'm simplifying the FCM syntax for
lambda types by omitting the outermost parens; can anyone tell me why the
authors thought those were necessary?

tom

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