Re: "Hello world!" without a public class?

From:

Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>

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comp.lang.java.programmer

Date:

Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:58:00 -0800 (PST)

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Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

Lew wrote:

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

1.) =BBpublic class HelloWorldApp=AB (because this is most common =

IIRC)

This the most common they are going to run into in real life and when y=

ou get in inheritance explain the difference between the 4 options. You s=
hould also point out (I know I will get flamed for this ;-)) that the only =
time you do not want to use "public" is in inner classes (which in my opini=
on should be outlawed anyways)

Do you really mean just inner classes?

Well?

Would you ban all nested classes outright?

It would be a very, very boneheaded thing to outlaw inner classes.

You'd destroy a common idiom for declaring listeners. You'd make lambdas=

impossible. You'd kill one of the most expressive features of Java, that=

was introduced to the language in the first place because of its great=

power.

And get rid of one the most unreadable/widely abused parts of all Java co=

de?

Conclusion not in evidence.

Sounds good to me... almost everything done with inner/nested classes ca=

n be

Which, inner or non-inner nested?

done cleaner with post 1.5 constructs that do not require impossible to r=

ead code.

Show the idioms you have in mind. Show how nested classes are "impossible t=
o
read". They aren't. Unless you don't know Java, in which case don't bother=

arguing about how to improve it. Show that what you have in mind is easier =
to
read. Show how you'd do lambdas without them. For God's sake, provide some=

evidence and logic for your point.

Otherwise it's just your personal, non-engineering-based and utterly irrele=
vant
opinion.

--
Lew

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