Re: Returning a bounded wildcard type

From:
Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:39:40 -0400
Message-ID:
<habf8d$aoh$1@news.albasani.net>
Tom Anderson wrote:
markspace wrote:

public interface MyMap {
 class Node {}
 List<? extends Node> getNodes();
}


The reasoning pundits offer against this is that it pushes the responsibility
for the subtyping off on the client and is much, much less clean in practice
than what those pundits, and tom below, recommend instead.

Every programmer I've known to attempt to use wildcards in a return type, at
least bounded ones, finds themselves in trouble before very long.

Why not:

public interface MyMap<N extends Node> {
    List<N> getNodes();
}

?


That's the approach that Josh Bloch, Brian Goetz and others recommend.

When my aforementioned associates switched to following that advice, their
issues induced by the return of (bounded) wildcards vanished.

The recommended syntax, as exemplified in tom's response, works so well that
there should be no need to consider the (bounded) wildcard return type. The
bounded wildcard return is, of course, legal syntax, but it makes far too weak
a declaration about the types involved.

--
Lew

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